What happens when fights are totally one-sided?

In this episode, Sam and Gen open up about their fighting styles, how conflict shifted after the honeymoon phase, and the surprising arguments that actually brought them closer together. Returning fan favorite Cheddy joins to push the conversation deeper into boundaries, reflection, and what communication looks like post-divorce.

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

1:34 Sam & Gen's Fighting Styles When Married

2:34 Yelling vs the Silent Treatment

5:20 How Fighting Changed After the Honeymoon Stage

7:12 Why Avoidants Fight the Way They Do

8:38 How Sam and Gen Fight Now

12:17 Are You Guys Friends?

14:40 Colleagues vs Spouses

15:19 Arguments That Brought Us Closer

17:12 How Gen Got Through To Sam About Dressing Better

19:14 How Communication Improved Post-Separation

22:14 Fighting & Self-Reflection

23:21 Boundaries Around Communication

26:19 Sam vs Gen on Boundaries/Yelling

If you’ve ever wondered what really goes on behind closed doors in a marriage—and what happens after—this episode pulls no punches.

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This one starts calm. It doesn’t stay that way.

In what quickly became our most fiery episode yet, Sam and Gen open up about dating in the present tense - what it looks like now, how “situationships” complicate everything, and why modern dating feels like survival of the fittest.

From background checks and “Tinder Swindler” fears to why so many men end up looking like frauds, the conversation spirals into deeper questions: Do men and women lose what makes them attractive over time? Are men socialized to be insidious? And where does personal responsibility fit in?

By the end, sparks are flying - especially when the “getting back together” question comes up again.

Timestamps:
1:00 – Sam and Gen on dating now
5:01 – Situationships
9:35 – Background checks & avoiding Tinder Swindlers
12:50 – Dating is rough nowadays
13:40 – Why so many men end up frauds
15:10 – Do men and women lose what makes them attractive?
16:44 – Are men socialized to be insidious? (Sam vs. Gen)
23:59 – Sam and Gen on getting back together?
25:45 – The blowup: personal responsibility

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Dating before you’re ready isn’t brave. It’s reckless.

In this episode, Sam and Gen strip away the excuses and tell the truth about how they used dating as a distraction - even before the ink on their divorce was dry. The fallout wasn’t abstract. It left scars - on themselves, and on the people they pulled in along the way.

Gen admits her pattern of checking out of relationships long before they were over. Samuel owns how he tried to medicate the shock of divorce with hedonism—burning through people and experiences like painkillers.

This is what it looks like when avoidance masquerades as connection, and when hurt people keep on hurting people.It’s uncomfortable. It’s honest. And for better of for worse... it’s exactly the kind of conversation that people going through divorce can relate to.

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We’re back with the second half of our conversation on attraction—this time, Sam and Gen dive deeper into what attraction really means: is it about looks, energy, or something more?

Together with guest host Karen Jewels, the trio wrestle with whether different types of attraction matter, how attraction connects to forgiveness, and what “being attractive” looks like long after the spark fades.

There are laughs, disagreements, and some uncomfortable truths—especially when the conversation turns to whether they had enough attraction in their marriage, and what it feels like now, showing up as co-hosts. And yes, we even answer the question everyone’s been asking: are we getting back together?

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*We reference the study “Making the Connection: Social Bonding in Courtship Situations,” published in the American Journal of Sociology, which found that just four minutes of conversation can be enough to spark a meaningful connection.

Timestamps:
0:51 – How important is attraction?
2:00 – Different types of attraction
5:35 – How attraction unlocks forgiveness
07:15 – Attraction vs. compatibility (Sam & Gen disagree)
13:07 – Making yourself more attractive
15:40 – Did we have enough attraction?
17:15 – How long does attraction really take to develop?
20:46 – Love Is Blind — AD & Clay
23:06 – What attraction looks like now, podcasting together
27:18 – The big one: ARE WE GETTING BACK TOGETHER?

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Attraction brought us together. Or did it?

In this episode, we dig into what drew us to each other in the first place—our “types,” our first trip together, and those early moments when curiosity turned into commitment. Spoiler: the answers aren’t what you’d expect.

With recording artist Karen Jewels guest hosting, things get even messier (and more honest) as we talk about how attraction fades, how it sometimes flips into repulsion, and what happens when emotional safety disappears inside a marriage. Along the way, we tackle whether you can recover from trauma in-marriage, how attraction shapes respect, and how much weight it should really carry.

It’s part funny (watch Gen absolutely fumble the intro), part vulnerable (Sam and Gen confess how they lost their feelings of safety in the marriage), and part raw truth about what attraction really means when the honeymoon ends.

Timestamps:

1:13 Gen struggles HARD with the podcast intro (funny)

04:09 Sam's normal type

05:30 Our first time traveling together

07:05 The moment Sam realized he was into Gen

08:36 Gen's normal type

09:40 How Gen realized she was into Sam

11:43 How that person's type affects your own attraction

13:00 Ways Gen (initially) made Sam feel safe

15:08 How attraction transitioned into commitment

18:10 Attraction becomes repulsion

20:46 How Sam made Gen feel unsafe in the marriage (trigger warning)

21:53 Can you come back from trauma in-marriage?

24:58 How Gen made Sam feel unsafe in the marriage

28:53 How much importance to place on attraction

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The debate continues..

In part two, Sam and Gen go further into the intellectual dynamics of their marriage. Gen shares the sacrifices she made to create space for Sam’s ideas, and alongside guest hosts Jeff and Joel, Sam and Gen wrestle with whether formal education is really a marker of intellectual strength - or just a piece of paper.

The conversation moves beyond surface-level definitions into how intellect actually showed up in their relationship, how each of them made room (or didn’t) for the other’s perspective, and why being “smart” doesn’t always mean being supportive.

By the end, both Sam and Gen surprise each other by coming away with different answers than they started with about who REALLY carried the relationship intellectually.

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What happens when you mix love, intellect, and four people who aren’t afraid to call each other out?

Sam and Gen welcome back Jeff and Joel for a spirited debate on what it really means to “carry” a relationship intellectually. Is it about having the higher IQ? Or is it about using your brainpower to keep things healthy, functional, and moving forward?

Between playful jabs and unexpected tangents, the crew dives into whether couples need to be intellectual equals, how thinking styles clash , and why the smartest person in the room isn’t always the best partner. Samuel also shares what he’s learned from experiences far outside the comfort zone - including time spent in the slums of Manila.Keywords for the algo:
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In a special bonus episode, Jeff recounts a funny phone call mishap involving Samuel, leading to a lighthearted discussion about Samuel's unique way of saying Genevieve's name. The conversation takes a deeper turn as they explore a pre-marital disagreement about which church to attend, revealing underlying issues involving authority, gender roles, and support systems.

00:25 A Funny Miscommunication"

02:04 Church Decision Dilemma

05:19 Support and Community in Marriage

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