The debate continues..

In part two, Sam and Gen go further into the intellectual dynamics of their marriage. Gen shares the sacrifices she made to create space for Sam’s ideas, and alongside guest hosts Jeff and Joel, Sam and Gen wrestle with whether formal education is really a marker of intellectual strength - or just a piece of paper.

The conversation moves beyond surface-level definitions into how intellect actually showed up in their relationship, how each of them made room (or didn’t) for the other’s perspective, and why being “smart” doesn’t always mean being supportive.

By the end, both Sam and Gen surprise each other by coming away with different answers than they started with about who REALLY carried the relationship intellectually.

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What happens when you mix love, intellect, and four people who aren’t afraid to call each other out?

Sam and Gen welcome back Jeff and Joel for a spirited debate on what it really means to “carry” a relationship intellectually. Is it about having the higher IQ? Or is it about using your brainpower to keep things healthy, functional, and moving forward?

Between playful jabs and unexpected tangents, the crew dives into whether couples need to be intellectual equals, how thinking styles clash , and why the smartest person in the room isn’t always the best partner. Samuel also shares what he’s learned from experiences far outside the comfort zone - including time spent in the slums of Manila.Keywords for the algo:
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In a special bonus episode, Jeff recounts a funny phone call mishap involving Samuel, leading to a lighthearted discussion about Samuel's unique way of saying Genevieve's name. The conversation takes a deeper turn as they explore a pre-marital disagreement about which church to attend, revealing underlying issues involving authority, gender roles, and support systems.

00:25 A Funny Miscommunication"

02:04 Church Decision Dilemma

05:19 Support and Community in Marriage

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It's late. We're tired. And somehow... that made this conversation even more honest.

In this second installment, Sam and Gen return with Timo to unpack what really defines financial leadership in a relationship. Is it just about who paid the bills? Or is there more to carrying the load than cash flow?

They divorced couple explore whether financial mismanagement disqualifies someone from being “the responsible one,” how living independently (or not) before marriage shaped their habits, and what they’ve each learned about emotional and strategic aspects of money.

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In the final installment of this three-part series, Gen gets real about what it’s like to podcast with her ex—and what still gets under her skin.

Guest host Shereen doesn’t hold back, asking directly if Gen would ever consider getting back with Sam. Gen answers in full detail, unpacking her reasons, her boundaries, and the growth it took to get to that answer. She also offers her take on the deeper purpose behind this podcast and whether she’d recommend other couples try something similar.

And for the first time, Gen opens up in detail about her post-divorce dating life—sharing new, never-before-heard stories and the lessons that came with them.

If you’ve ever wondered how people actually move on (or if they really do), this one’s not to be missed.

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*Trigger Warning* - Discussion of ab*se

In Part Two of this deeply personal conversation, Gen continues to unpack the emotional and psychological weight of her marriage to Sam. She revisits the choice to marry him—what influenced it, what she ignored, and what it’s like to relive those decisions in hindsight.

Gen also opens up about her personal journey through therapy, what led her to become a therapist herself, and the lasting imprint Sam’s behavior left on her long after the relationship ended.

This episode is raw, reflective, and at times, difficult. Gen doesn’t shy away from sharing both the healthy and unhealthy ways she coped, offering a nuanced look at what healing can actually look like.

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“I didn’t feel emotionally safe anymore.”

In this episode, Gen opens up about when things actually started feeling off, what made her say yes in the first place, and how she ignored the red flags.

A woman-to-woman conversation on boundaries, alignment, and what happens when the vibe changes after “I do.”

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Money talks. And in this episode, Sam and Gen talk back.

In this conversation, the formerly married pair unpack who actually carried the financial weight in their marriage—and what that even means. Was it 50/50? What about the planning, the execution, the stress? They dive into how gender roles, cultural expectations, and unspoken assumptions all shaped their approach to money as a couple.

Topics include:

– Why 50/50 isn’t always fair

– Who thought they were leading financially (and who actually was)

– How culture shaped their beliefs about money

– The mental load of financial planning

– What they'd do differently now

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