S3E29 - Paul McQuery - Blue Grove Baptist - You Are Where You Are Until You're Not: How a Pastor Walks Through Downsizing
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S3E29 - Paul McQuery - Blue Grove Baptist - You Are Where You Are Until You're Not: How a Pastor Walks Through Downsizing
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Paul McQuery pastors Blue Grove Baptist Church — this is our first visit there, though Paul has been on the podcast before and pastored Valley Grove in Stephenville when the McNeils sang there for several years.
The conversation centers on Paul's decision to leave a thriving church — attendance up, giving up, double-digit baptisms, deacons telling him the church was better than when he arrived — for a smaller, rural congregation less than a third the size. He walks through why: a lifelong passion for small communities, a conviction that numbers were never the measure of faithfulness, and a clear sense that God was calling him there. His philosophy on transitions: "You are where you are until you're not." He stayed fully pastoral to Valley Grove — funerals, hospital visits, everything — right up until the move.
Midway through, a tornado warning cuts the conversation short. Chris and his family cleared out, drove 30 miles south, waited out the storm, and came back to finish. It's real, it's unplanned, and it's part of the episode.
The conversation closes on why obedience rarely makes sense in the moment — Moses got his sign 40 years later, Abraham was told to go without being told where. Faith, not logic, is the whole point.