S1E1 - Every Number Has a Story with Jannik Kaiser
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S1E1 - Every Number Has a Story with Jannik Kaiser
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In the first episode of the Regenerative edge, host Moh Al-Haifi speaks with Jannik Kaiser, co-founder of Unity Effect, about the moment he first began questioning how impact is measured, and what might be lost when evaluation becomes too detached from lived experience.
Jannik traces his journey from copying Fairtrade data out of PDFs and into spreadsheets, to realising that every metric ton of coffee, cocoa, or produce carried stories of people, places, labour, relationships, and change. From there, the conversation opens into a deeper question, what happens when we treat impact measurement not only as reporting, but as a practice of listening?
Together, Moh and Jannick explore the early roots of regenerative evaluation, the balance between scientific rigour and activist imagination, and why the stories behind the numbers matter if organisations want to grow in ways that are ethical, equitable, and grounded in people, place, and power.
This episode is part of Season 1, Setting the Table, stewarded by Zebra Growth and created in collaboration with foundational partners Unity Effect and Tandem.
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