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Rubbish Talk

著者: Alasdair Meldrum and Jane Bond from Albion Environmental Ltd
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The Rubbish Talk podcast is brought to you by staff from Albion Environmental, to widen the conversation about managing waste and resources in the UK. Each episode will interview a new guest who plays an important role within the waste and resource management industry. We will discuss everything from career journeys, balancing work and personal life, and generally just talk some rubbish. Get in touch by emailing hello@rubbishtalk.co.uk Episodes released Thu. 4pm fortnightly. LinkedIn: Albion Environmental Latest industry news: www.industrynews.albion-environmental.co.ukAlasdair Meldrum and Jane Bond from Albion Environmental Ltd 経済学
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  • Episode 88: The Waste Journey of Glass
    2025/12/11

    TOPIC: The Waste Journey of Glass

    With Scotland generating over 207,000 tonnes of glass waste in 2023 — but recovering only around 131,000 tonnes — there is still a huge opportunity to improve glass circularity. Jane opens with why glass recycling matters: it’s infinitely recyclable, supports the circular economy, and reduces reliance on virgin materials. But the journey is more complex than many realise.


    Depending on where you live, glass might be collected kerbside (like Alasdair’s purple-lidded bin), mixed with cans and plastics (like Jane’s), or taken to bottle banks. Regardless, the ideal input is glass bottles and jars only — not Pyrex, window glass, ceramics or drinking glasses, all of which melt at different temperatures and contaminate the recycling stream.


    Colour sorting remains important for closed-loop recycling, although modern facilities like Sibelco’s Newhouse plant can separate mixed glass into usable fractions. Surprising to both presenters, current market prices for clear, green, brown and mixed glass are broadly similar — raising questions about the cost–benefit of colour separation at collection.


    Jane draws on her visit to the O-I glass factory, describing molten glass “dropping out in globules” before forming new bottles — a process as mesmerising as it is energy-intensive. Reprocessors can only include a certain proportion of recycled content to keep emissions manageable, balancing circularity with furnace performance.


    Not all glass becomes bottles again. Some lower-grade material is turned into aggregate, sand substitute, shot-blast material or — interestingly — filtration media. Glass filters can reduce water treatment energy use, chemical demand, and fouling, making it a surprisingly high-value outlet despite its lower carbon savings.


    Alasdair highlights European examples where beer bottles are standardised and endlessly reused — a system far more sustainable than recycling. Even at home, Jane recalls milk bottle return schemes as a reminder of how simple reuse can be. Could reuse make a comeback in the UK? Only if producers are pushed to redesign packaging systems.


    The UK-wide DRS will exclude glass, unlike Wales, which plans to include it. That decision impacts kerbside systems, retail handling, safety concerns and producer behaviour. As Alasdair notes, omitting glass could lead to more plastic on the market — an unintended environmental consequence worth watching closely.


    RUBBISH RANT: Christmas Over-Consumption

    With Christmas approaching, Alasdair’s seasonal plea is simple: stop buying tat. From novelty gifts destined for the bin by January to pressure to over-consume at parties, the wastefulness is staggering.


    Real or artificial trees? That debate continues, but the message remains: consume thoughtfully, reuse what you have, and resist the assumption that more stuff equals more celebration.


    And a final reminder: WEEE and batteries should always be recycled properly — don’t put them in the bin. You can find out where to take them at: Recycle Your Electricals.

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    41 分
  • Episode 87: The Waste Journey of WEEE (Waste, Electrical & Electronic Equipment)
    2025/12/04
    News RoundupFines for Littering From Cars Up Nearly 500% Since 2020Jane and Alasdair welcome the dramatic rise in fines but note the bigger picture: only five fines a day across the UK — a tiny response compared to the mountains of roadside litter.England to Ban Controversial Pay-Per-Fine Litter SystemThe government plans to scrap enforcement schemes where private companies profit from issuing fines. Alasdair is unmoved: the simplest way to avoid a fine remains don’t litter in the first place.Spring 2027 Confirmed as Start Date for Ban on Plastic in Wet WipesAfter years of fatbergs, blockages and microplastic pollution, England will finally ban wet wipes containing plastic. Scotland and Northern Ireland are working toward similar bans — albeit slowly.Scottish Council Considers Cap After One Resident Books Nearly 250 HWRC VisitsListeners overwhelmingly agreed: 250 visits is not household use — it’s commercial activity in disguise. With ANPR tech now widely used, enforcing limits should be straightforward.Illegal Waste Dumping Investigation Leads to ArrestFollowing months of inaction, an arrest has finally been made relating to a major illegal dumping site first raised in July. The delay highlights many of the enforcement weaknesses discussed last week with barrister Samantha Riggs (Episode 86).Major Waste Firm Warns Vapes Cause Over One Fire Per DayDespite the ban on disposables, fires linked to lithium batteries inside vapes continue to rise. Jane and Alasdair stress that this isn’t a “vape problem” alone — any hidden battery in any electronic item poses a risk.Topic: The Waste Journey of WEEEThe UK places around 1.65 million tonnes of electrical goods on the market each year, yet almost half of all WEEE never reaches recycling — instead being hoarded, binned, lost, or illegally exported. Jane highlights Material Focus research showing that hundreds of thousands of tonnes of reusable or recyclable electronics sit forgotten in cupboards and drawers.Under WEEE regulations, any product with a plug, cable or battery counts as electrical waste. Producers must register, report tonnages, and pay for recycling — usually via a compliance scheme. But as Alasdair notes, the regulations were written in 2007 and haven’t kept pace with today’s battery-powered gadgets, smart devices and embedded electronics. Even novelty Christmas antlers with light-up LEDs technically fall under WEEE, yet most people throw them in the bin.The episode also walks through practical recycling steps: retailers must offer take-back when selling new items, HWRCs accept everything from kettles to TVs, and tools like Material Focus’ Hypnocat search tool help householders find drop-off points. Alasdair tested it himself while trying to recycle his broken kettle — and found it far more reliable than Amazon’s own guidance.At authorised treatment facilities, items are dismantled, hazards removed, batteries extracted, and materials shredded and separated. But many products — from toys to laptops — make battery removal so difficult that operators resort to hammers. This design-for-disposal failure is a major barrier to safe recycling.Alasdair and Jane conclude that while the system is workable, it’s outdated. Without better producer responsibility, improved design standards, and stronger communication to the public, WEEE recycling will remain a bottleneck in the UK’s circular economy.Rubbish Rant: Producers, Wet Wipes, and Christmas TatThis week’s rant is firmly aimed at producers — especially those flooding the market with disposable tech, plastic-filled wet wipes, and seasonal “electrical tat” guaranteed to break before New Year. Alasdair calls for manufacturers to take real responsibility for end-of-life environmental impacts, and Jane notes the ongoing confusion caused when neither producers nor retailers explain proper disposal routes.
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    39 分
  • Episode 86: Waste Crime with Samantha Riggs
    2025/11/27

    This week, Alasdair is joined by a very special guest — Samantha Riggs, a criminal barrister from 25 Bedford Row and one of the UK’s few legal specialists working almost exclusively in environmental and waste management law. Samantha has spent over a decade navigating the complexities of regulation, enforcement, and prosecution in the waste sector — and she also happens to be a long-time Rubbish Talk listener.


    Samantha’s legal career began in fraud, including notable cases like hallmarking scams in Birmingham’s Jewellery Quarter and even a nine-month trial involving a man posing as an MI5 officer — the subject of Netflix’s “Rogue Agent”. Eventually she moved away from lengthy fraud trials and into environmental regulation, a field she found far more meaningful and intellectually engaging. She has now specialised in waste for over 12 years.


    Much of the discussion centres on the major illegal waste sites emerging across England, including high-profile cases like Hodes Wood and Kiddlington, where tens of thousands of tonnes of waste were deposited illegally despite the regulator being aware months earlier. Samantha explains why frustration is growing within the regulated industry: compliant operators face scrutiny for minor issues while enormous illegal sites flourish unchecked.


    She highlights a critical question raised in the House of Lords inquiry into waste crime — if the Environment Agency knew these sites were active in July, why were restriction orders not issued until October? With mountains of waste reaching 30,000–50,000 tonnes, public concern is justified, especially when residents were swimming downstream of sites later found to contain contaminated waste.


    Samantha emphasises that the regulator doesn’t need more authority — it already has extensive powers to restrict sites, seize vehicles, question suspects, and shut down illegal operations. The real issue is that these powers aren’t being used effectively. Slow action, weak coordination and unclear accountability mean illegal sites can operate long after being identified. As Samantha notes, the legislation is strong, but the system lacks the drive and structure to enforce it — a concern also highlighted in the recent Lords inquiry.


    Samantha explains that sentencing law in England and Wales allows courts to recover full cleanup costs, remove illegal profits, and issue prison sentences of up to five years. Yet many cases never include cleanup cost submissions, and financial investigations are often skipped — meaning fines reflect what offenders claim to earn rather than what they actually gained. According to Samantha, the problem isn’t the sentencing framework but inconsistent application and a lack of specialist understanding within the system.


    The conversation also dives into landfill tax fraud, blurred lines between legitimate operators and organised crime, and how producer pressure to keep costs low fuels illegal activity. Samantha stresses that digital waste tracking will help compliant businesses but won’t stop criminals who already avoid paperwork. Ultimately, she argues that England needs independent oversight — similar to Scotland’s split between SEPA and the Procurator Fiscal — because the Environment Agency currently investigates, prosecutes and effectively judges cases with little external scrutiny.

    Useful Links:

    Independent review on waste crime needed following multiple failures and lack of action

    House of lords letter regarding Waste crime enquiry

    The National Fly-Tipping Prevention Group

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