A former pastor, church planter, and author breaks down why the wilderness isn't a detour from the Christian life — it IS the Christian life. After walking through identity collapse, the silence of God, and the slow road to restoration, Dustin Kleinschmidt is now doing more actual ministry OUTSIDE vocational ministry than he ever did inside it. An honest voice for the honest Christian! Dustin is an author, coach, worship songwriter, and the writer behind "The Wilderness Way: Finding Freedom in Life's Fractures." His mission is to help believers stop pretending they have it figured out and start trusting God in the fractures — where real faithfulness is forged.

He Explains:

1. Why your identity gets wrapped up in significance (not just ministry) — and how to spot it.
2. How the Western church traded "go and be" for "come and see" — and what we lose when belonging comes after believing.
3. Why lament is faith's most faithful expression (and why Jesus wept at Lazarus' tomb even though He knew the ending).
4. 3 tips for Christians standing at a crossroads who feel stuck in the forest with no clear path forward.

⏱️ CHAPTERS
00:00 – Intro: Meet Dustin Kleinschmidt
02:52 – The Panera Sip Club & Dustin's booth
04:23 – Catching up: The Wilderness Way book study & new worship album
06:54 – Club volleyball, parenting, and the money grab
09:53 – Why this book hit different (Chase's reaction)
12:10 – Doing more ministry OUTSIDE vocational ministry
17:05 – Identity, significance, and the next book Dustin is writing
19:34 – Chase opens up: navigating his own deconstruction
23:11 – "Go and be" vs. "Come and see": rethinking how the church operates
26:50 – The long game: how a volleyball team led someone to Jesus
30:37 – Can the Western church actually change?
33:54 – Theology, philosophy, and practice: what's actually negotiable
38:30 – Reimagining church buildings as community spaces
42:39 – Christian karaoke and why all kinds of churches are needed
49:34 – Chase's home church dissolved: processing the grief
53:23 – Lament as faith's most faithful expression
59:48 – Jesus at Lazarus' tomb: He didn't shortcut the grief
1:05:34 – Where were you when I created? God's tenderness in our temper tantrums
1:08:30 – Why transparency with God changes everything
1:12:05 – Affection languages: how YOU uniquely connect with God
1:19:56 – 3 steps for Christians stuck in the forest of a big decision
1:28:38 – What makes Dustin smile (5 words)
1:29:00 – Where to find Dustin's book, album & coaching

🎵 Stream Dustin's new worship album "In Days" on Spotify & Apple Music
📖 Grab "The Wilderness Way" on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Wilderness-Way-Finding-Freedom-Fractures/dp/B0FWZBVJTX
🌐 Work with Dustin: www.dustinkleinschmidt.com

Follow The Road to Worship:
Website: https://roadtoworship.org
YouTube - / @roadtoworship
Listen on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4I44Jkv...

Follow Chase:
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Learn more about Chase: https://chaseavery.com

A former Division 1 track athlete turned Fortune 500 executive reveals why getting hit by a 4x4 truck at full speed was the FIRST of TWO life-altering "deaths" that led him to discover what's truly broken in our healthcare system. An embodiment of bold faith! Rob Rene is the founder of Exodus Strong, a faith-based wellness company combining red light therapy, frequency medicine, biblically-based supplements, and daily faith practice. Rob's mission is to call the medical system higher and help others heal their bodies the way God designed them to be healed.

He Explains:
1. How to rebuild your identity when your dream dies overnight.
2. Why the healthcare system masks problems instead of healing them (and what to do about it).
3. How God removed his 20-year alcohol addiction in a single moment of surrender.
4. The 7 FREE daily habits that will transform your health (no doctor required).

🎁 Save 30% on all bundles at https://exodusstrong.com/
🎙️ Listen to Rob's podcast: Biohackingville on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BiohackingVille

Connect with Rob:
Website: https://exodusstrong.com/
https://www.instagram.com/exodusstrong/
https://www.youtube.com/@UCS9LjRXfepZ47Yi-worG4hQ

Follow The Road to Worship:
Website: https://roadtoworship.org
YouTube - / @roadtoworship
Listen on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4I44Jkv...

Follow Chase:
Follow Chase on Instagram - / chase1avery
Learn more about Chase: https://chaseavery.com

What happens when grief, a global shutdown, and a business bleeding money all hit at the same time — and you have to decide whether to walk away from your dream or fight for it while you're still broken?

McKensey Ciaramella is the co-owner of Tekton Fitness in Murray, Utah — a CrossFit affiliate that's been building community for over 14 years. What started as a family hobby in 2008 when her dad and brother walked into an underground CrossFit gym has evolved into one of the longest-running affiliates in the Salt Lake area. McKensey is an expert CrossFit and nutrition coach, a psychology degree holder turned full-time people-builder, a mother of two, and the kind of leader who makes you feel seen the moment you walk through her door.

Why CrossFit without nutrition is incomplete — and the one shift that transforms everything people notice in the gym

How McKenzie got her Level 1 certification at 10 months pregnant, then signed a gym lease from a hospital bed days after giving birth

The gut-wrenching moment she got the call that her mom had committed suicide — and how grief physically shut her body down for months

Why she refused to quit the gym during her lowest season, choosing instead to let the work heal her rather than making permanent decisions from a broken place

The raw truth about entrepreneurship: not getting paid for a year, leaning on her husband's support, and choosing to give it everything even if failure was on the table

How she creates a space so authentic that people literally cannot hide who they are — and why that's the magic of her community

The parallel between CrossFit and life: it never gets easier, you just get stronger — and why your first pull-up and your rock bottom are both part of the same journey

If you've ever wrestled with whether to keep going when everything in your life is telling you to stop — or wondered what it looks like to rebuild yourself and your business at the same time — this conversation will hit home.

Connect with McKensey:
Join Tekton Fitness Today: https://tektonfitness.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tektonfitness/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TEKTONFITNESS-ie5jg

Follow The Road to Worship:
Website: https://roadtoworship.org
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@roadtoworship
Listen on Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4I44JkvbnuqREcsaMD3Kks

Follow Chase:
Follow Chase on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/chase1avery
Learn more about Chase: https://chaseavery.com