Clarence and Yalonda break down the difference between price and value—from designer heels to dream cars to wedding bells. Find out why they skipped the big wedding bill at first and saved the splurge for their 15th anniversary. Sometimes the best investments aren’t about money at all.

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Parenting tactic #523 - Sometimes we gotta manufacture challenges for our kids to learn certain lessons when they're young and under our protection as opposed to allowing them to face these obstacles for the first time once they are out on their own, and the stakes are much higher.

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For a lot of our marriage, we were basically joined at the hip. Grocery shopping was a full family event. If one of us was showering, the other was holding the towel. Yalonda even had Clarence watching Lifetime movies and he had her watching basketball and scifi. But over the years (okay, decades), things shifted a bit. Not in a dramatic, “we’re growing apart” kind of way—but in a healthy, quietly powerful way.

In this episode, we talk about how our marriage has evolved to make space for us to put our twist on togetherness. And Clarence reveals a set threebies that might have you like whaaat?!

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We say "nipple" a lot in this episode!

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Is it okay for a man to cry at the movie theater or to express that he was hurt by what a loved one said to him? What does it mean when a guy is told to man up on the job or in his relationships? Is being a man under attack? In this episode, we get into a phrase that's used a lot these days: "toxic masculinity." What does it mean to each of us when we hear it? Is "toxic femininity" a thing, too? Chop it up with us!

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Our relationship has been a musical journey since our beginnings in 1993 with Sade's Love Deluxe through Joseph Solomon's Black Like You. Along this journey—much of which took place literally on the road—we've introduced each other to soulful R&B (his bag) and uplifting gospel music (mine). Come with us as we get wax nostalgic on the tunes that bind us.

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For many of us as children, our parents were superhuman, until one day they weren't. Over time, they became real people - people who don't know everything about everything, people who could lose a step, people who could make a mistake, people with private lives that didn't include us. Join the conversation as Clarence and Yalonda talk about when those realizations hit them -- their parents were people all along.

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This episode is all about aging like fine wine and keeping their health game strong by staying on point with preventive health screenings. Clarence and Yalonda know that preventive health care is self-care, and taking care of yourself is also taking care of your spouse. Tap in and join the conversation!

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