In this episode, host Alex Greene sits down with Lindsay Wolff, a certified health coach and mentor with the Primal Trust Program. Lindsay shares her powerful journey from experiencing debilitating chronic illness—including chronic fatigue, Lyme disease, and severe pain—to discovering the transformative power of nervous system regulation and somatic practices. After spending nearly a decade navigating the medical system without lasting relief, Lindsay found healing through a comprehensive approach that integrates bottom-up nervous system practices, trauma processing, and reconnection with nature.

Lindsay introduces listeners to the Primal Trust framework, explaining how it differs from other brain retraining programs through its three-level curriculum that begins with foundational practices like TRE (Trauma Release Exercises), functional neurology, and breathwork before moving into deeper emotional processing and parts work. She discusses the importance of titrating these practices for sensitive nervous systems, creating safety through gradual exposure, and building capacity over time. The conversation explores how chronic illness often stems from nervous system dysregulation following stress or trauma, and how practices like neurogenic tremoring can help discharge survival energy stored in the body.

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Key Highlights & Timestamps

• 00:00 Introduction to Lindsay
• 01:00 Primal Trust Overview
• 03:00 Lindsay's Journey Begins
• 04:00 Chronic Illness Algorithm
• 05:00 Health Crash Experience
• 07:00 Nature's Healing Power
• 09:00 Discovering TRE Practice
• 12:00 Body-Mind Connection Awakening
• 13:00 Primal Trust Explained
• 15:00 Bottom-Up Practices
• 18:00 Brain Retraining Fundamentals
• 21:00 Level Two Work
• 23:00 Hero's Journey Framework
• 25:00 Mentorship and Coaching
• 36:00 Titrating TRE Practice
• 42:00 Individual vs Group
• 46:00 Nature Connection Experience
• 48:00 Emotional Reservoir Concept
• 53:00 Workshop Preview

Resources & Links Mentioned

• Primal Trust Program: https://www.primaltrust.org/
• Dr. Cathleen King (Dr. Cath): https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-cathleen-king-dpt-951b6597
• Red Beard Embodiment Podcast with Dr. Cathleen King https://www.redbeardsomatictherapy.com/post/podcast-e29-discovering-primal-trust-ft-dr-cathleen-king

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What happens when a trauma survivor discovers TRE and becomes the practitioner she needed? Alex Greene speaks with Svava Brooks, a TRE practitioner in Reykjavik, Iceland, who has mastered integrating neurogenic tremoring with mindful self-compassion and polyvagal theory. Svava didn't set out to become a provider—she entered the training for her own healing. But what she discovered transformed not only her life but her approach to holding space for others.

As a complex trauma survivor in functional freeze, Svava shares practical wisdom from taking "a thousand tiny steps" into social engagement. She reveals why TRE alone wasn't enough—she needed self-compassion practices to befriend her body and build the safe attachment capacity she'd never experienced. She discusses why she teaches the "hand on heart" practice first, how to work with freeze patterns during tremoring, and why going "slower than slow" creates lasting change. Now bringing TRE to every town in Iceland, Svava offers insights on sustainable healing practices, integrating somatic work with other modalities, and creating compassionate containers where bodies feel safe to release.

Key Highlights:

• 00:04 - Introduction and Congress Overview
• 03:10 - Robert Schleip on Fascia
• 05:29 - Fascia Responds to Stress
• 08:45 - Fabiana de Silva's Vagal Resets
• 11:17 - Self-Help Grounding Through Squeezing
• 12:18 - Gil Hedley's Vagus Dissection
• 14:01 - Sounding and Vagal Activation
• 18:06 - Fascia, Consciousness, and Soul
• 21:28 - Meeting Stephen Porges
• 25:32 - Traumatic Brain Injury Insights
• 30:00 - Liza's TRE Presentation Experience
• 32:51 - 100 People Experience Tremoring
• 40:00 - Future Congress Plans
• 42:40 - Sami Yoiking Healing Songs
• 48:34 - Human Algorithm Workshop Preview

Resources Mentioned:

• ACE Study (Adverse Childhood Experiences Study): https://www.ajpmonline.org/article/s0749-3797(98)00017-8/pdf
• Polyvagal Theory: https://www.polyvagalinstitute.org/whatispolyvagaltheory
• Kristin Neff - Self-Compassion Research: https://self-compassion.org/the-research/
• Dr. David Berceli: https://treglobal.org/about-dr-david-berceli/
• Svava’s Website: https://www.svavabrooks.com/

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Alex Greene welcomes back Liza Kimble for an exciting follow-up conversation about her groundbreaking experience at the Fascia Congress in New Orleans. Fresh from her travels, Liza shares how she introduced TRE and neurogenic tremoring to the international fascia research community, where over 100 attendees experienced tremoring for the first time. The congress brought together leading voices in nervous system work, including Stephen Porges, Robert Schleip, and Gil Hedley, creating a unique convergence of scientific research and therapeutic practice that validated the deep connection between fascia, trauma, and the autonomic nervous system.

Liza takes listeners behind the scenes of this transformative event, sharing insights from keynote presentations on the fascia-nervous system connection, Gil Hedley's emotional vagus nerve dissection, and conversations about consciousness within connective tissue. She discusses the positive reception to her TRE demonstration with Professor Werner Klingler, the power of vagal activation through sound and voice work, and her growing passion for integrating indigenous healing wisdom—including Sami yoiking traditions—with somatic practices. This conversation illuminates the exciting frontier where ancient healing methods, cutting-edge fascia research, and neurogenic tremoring converge to offer new pathways for trauma healing and embodied wellness.

Listen to the full episode to discover how the fascia world is embracing neurogenic tremoring and what this means for the future of trauma healing and somatic therapy.

Key Highlights:

00:04 - Introduction and Congress Overview
03:10 - Robert Schleip on Fascia
05:29 - Fascia Responds to Stress
08:45 - Fabiana de Silva's Vagal Resets
11:17 - Self-Help Grounding Through Squeezing
12:18 - Gil Hedley's Vagus Dissection
14:01 - Sounding and Vagal Activation
18:06 - Fascia, Consciousness, and Soul
21:28 - Meeting Stephen Porges
25:32 - Traumatic Brain Injury Insights
30:00 - Liza's TRE Presentation Experience
32:51 - 100 People Experience Tremoring
40:00 - Future Congress Plans
42:40 - Sami Yoiking Healing Songs
48:34 - Human Algorithm Workshop Preview

Resources Mentioned:

• Robert Schleip - Fascia Research Foundation
• Gil Hedley - Nerve Tour and Anatomy Videos: https://www.gilhedley.com/
• Stephen Porges - Polyvagal Theory: https://www.stephenporges.com/
• Fabiana Silva - Fascia Research Society President: https://www.facebook.com/FasciaResearchSociety/
• John Sharkey - Anatomist and Fascia Researcher: http://www.johnsharkeyevents.com/
• Journal of Movement and Bodywork
• Liza Kimble’s website: https://lizakimble.com/

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