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Recruiting is No Joke

Recruiting is No Joke

著者： Joel Lalgee
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 Welcome to "Recruiting is No Joke" with your host, Joel Lalgee – the realest recruiter. Get ready for raw, no-BS conversations that delve into the latest trends in the recruiting space. Joel holds nothing back, providing a fresh and entertaining take on the world of recruitment. With no filter, Joel gives you an inside look at the industry like never before. If you're craving to be part of the conversation with leaders in the field, this podcast is your ticket. Discover the ins and outs of talent acquisition trends, hear the captivating stories of top talent thought leaders, and gain valuable perspectives on current industry happenings. You will also learn what talent and HR leaders actually care about, bridging the gap between job seekers and talent leaders. With a decade of recruiting experience, Joel's content has made waves, generating over 200 million views. Joel brings you insights that matter, resonating with both recruiters and job seekers alike. Tune in and join the conversation!Copyright 2025 Joel Lalgee マネジメント マネジメント・リーダーシップ 出世 就職活動 経済学
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  • How to Build Credibility with Hiring Managers Before You Even Speak with Caroline Kiesler and Kearstin McGinnis

    How to Build Credibility with Hiring Managers Before You Even Speak with Caroline Kiesler and Kearstin McGinnis
    2025/11/05
    In this live episode of Recruiting is No Joke, recorded at RecFest 2025 inside the Purple Acorn Tent, Joel Lalgee sits down with two powerhouse recruiting leaders, Caroline Kiesler, Director of HR at Workwear Outfitters, and Kearstin McGinnis, Recruitment Leader at TekSynap, to explore what it really takes to stay relevant in today’s rapidly evolving talent landscape. Caroline shares her inspiring journey from staffing recruiter to HR executive and breaks down how recruiters can transition into broader people roles by understanding compensation philosophy, succession planning, and leadership development. She challenges recruiters to stop chasing time-to-fill metrics and start building strategic credibility with hiring managers by leading with insights, not just job requisitions. Then, Kearstin dives into how AI is reshaping the recruiting process inside government contracting and why keeping the human touch matters more than ever. From nurturing long-term candidate relationships to adapting outreach for Gen Z talent, she offers real-world advice on personalization, conference networking, and building meaningful connections in a noisy digital world. In this episode: [00:00] Welcome to RecFest 2025 [00:34] Meet Caroline Kiesler: HR director at Workwear Outfitters [01:00] Caroline’s journey from recruiting to HR [01:48] Advice for transitioning from TA to HR [03:10] The importance of compensation philosophy [04:22] Reflections on RecFest [05:27] Fireside chat preview: TA through the lens of HR [08:20] Building credibility with hiring managers [12:58] Connecting with Caroline Kiesler [14:16] Introducing Kearstin McGinnis: recruitment for GovCon IT [14:41] Biggest changes and growth in AI [15:09] Implementing AI in recruitment [16:46] Maintaining human connection in recruitment [17:38] Engaging with candidates on social media [23:05] Maximizing conference experiences [25:28] Choosing the right vendors [27:13] Connecting with Kearstin McGinnis [27:54] Final thoughts About the Guests Caroline Kiesler is the Director of Human Resources at Workwear Outfitters, overseeing global HR strategy across talent acquisition, engagement, and development. With a foundation in recruiting, Caroline is passionate about building cultures that invest in people and long-term growth. Kearstin McGinnis leads recruitment for TekSynap, a government contracting IT firm operating across five countries. Known for her relationship-first approach, she focuses on humanizing candidate experience and embracing AI with authenticity and care. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Caroline Kiesler Social Media LinkedIn Workwear Outfitters Kearstin McGinnis Social Media LinkedIn TekSynap This episode is brought to you by Basic Capital. As a leader in innovative retirement solutions, Basic Capital helps companies empower their employees through a new kind of 401(k). Visit basiccapital.com to explore a customizable plan that engages your team, strengthens retention, and helps them grow their retirement savings up to five times faster. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    29 分
  • Why Your 401(k) Might Be the Best Recruiting Tool You’re Not Using

    Why Your 401(k) Might Be the Best Recruiting Tool You’re Not Using
    2025/10/30
    In this special live episode of Recruiting is No Joke, recorded at RecFest 2025 in Nashville, Joel Lalgee brings you raw, unfiltered conversations from the front lines. We go beyond the hype to tackle the real challenges and opportunities facing recruiters and HR leaders today. Joel chats with Nate Taylor from Basic Capital and Casey Timorason from Service Professionals, who reveal how a reimagined 401(k) has become a secret recruiting advantage—helping offers stand out, build loyalty, and transform how companies attract and retain talent. Next, Jennifer Beckman from Long Building Technologies talks about the skilled trades shortage and how a family-driven culture gives her company its edge. She shows what real innovation looks like when it’s built on connection—and why parents and new grads should rethink what a “safe” career really means. Finally, Kaysha Kruger, VP of People at AWC, brings a human perspective to the AI conversation—sharing why setting boundaries matters, why people leaders need a seat at the strategy table, and how the rise of small business acquisitions could create new opportunities for future entrepreneurs. This episode is part inspiration, part wake-up call—a reminder that the future of work isn’t just about technology, but about people who stay curious, adaptable, and bold enough to shape what’s next. About the Guests Nate Taylor Head of Growth at Basic Capital, a company creating a new type of 401(k) that amplifies employees' investing power. Casey Timorason leads Growth (Recruiting & Marketing) at Service Professionals, a residential home services company recruiting plumbers, electricians, and HVAC technicians. Jennifer Beckman HR Director at Long Building Technologies, an HVAC and building automation specialist focused on authentic connections and family culture. Kayshia Kruger VP of People & OD at AWC, an organizational psychology expert focused on the human side of business and AI integration. About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on LI. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1B times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Recruiting is No Joke Social Media ⁠LinkedIn⁠ ⁠Website⁠ Nate Taylor Social Media ⁠LinkedIn⁠ ⁠Basic Capital⁠ Casey Timorason Social Media ⁠LinkedIn⁠ ⁠Service Professionals⁠ Jennifer Beckman Social Media ⁠LinkedIn⁠ ⁠LONG Building Technologies⁠ Kayshia Kruger Social Media ⁠LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    37 分
  • Episode 119: The Rinse Cycle of Work: Are You About to Be Left Behind? with Cassandra Rose

    Episode 119: The Rinse Cycle of Work: Are You About to Be Left Behind? with Cassandra Rose
    2025/10/22
    The world of work is spinning fast. The gold rush of 2021 is over, money’s tighter than ever, and everyone’s trying to figure out what’s next. Are we adapting or just hanging on? In this episode of Recruiting Is No Joke, Joel Lalgee sits down with Cassandra Rose, a powerhouse HR leader and Fractional Chief People Officer with one of the most unexpected career paths you’ll hear, from inner-city missionary to the C-suite. Together, they unpack what Cassandra calls “the rinse cycle”, this messy middle where companies are right-sizing, employees are job-hugging, and everyone’s redefining what stability really means. This episode isn’t just about surviving, it’s about evolving. Cassandra challenges listeners to think like entrepreneurs, build your personal brand, understand your company’s goals, and use AI not as a threat but as a tool to amplify your impact. Her “lamplighter” analogy will make you see technology and your career in a whole new light. If you’ve been feeling uncertain about your path, questioning your next move, or wondering how to stay relevant in a world that won’t stop changing, this conversation is your reset. Because the future of work isn’t waiting for anyone. It rewards the curious, the adaptable, and the ones brave enough to learn, unlearn, and lead through change. Let’s dive in! In this episode: [00:00] Podcast intro and guest welcome [01:09] Who is Cassandra Rose? From New Yorker to Fractional Chief People Officer [01:41] What “fractional” really means and why it’s on the rise [03:01] Cassandra’s unexpected path from missionary work to HR [04:48] Falling in love with people operations [06:21] What surprised her most about HR and how social media changed everything [07:50] Salary transparency and the end of gatekeeping [09:03] The recruiter’s dilemma: pay equity vs. lowball culture [10:52] The state of the job market in 2025 [12:00] How to evaluate companies before you apply [14:50] “The rinse cycle” of the workforce and what’s next [17:40] Why people are “job hugging” and how it’s affecting the market [19:30] The entrepreneurial mindset every worker needs [21:48] Redefining “value” in your role, how to link your work to business goals [24:20] The rise of intrapreneurship and cross-functional awareness [26:00] The future of work: Gen Z, AI, and brand-building at work [30:37] Embracing uncertainty and leading with curiosity [33:18] Cassandra’s “Lamplighter” analogy for AI resistance [36:26] Trust, humanity, and progress [39:33] The lighter side of HR, finding community and joy outside work [42:07] Her favorite professional networks and how to find your tribe [44:42] Where to connect with Cassandra online [45:13] Closing thoughts About Cassandra Rose Cassandra Rose is a seasoned HR leader and Fractional Chief People Officer at Fringe. With two decades of experience in HR, benefits strategy, and people operations, she helps growing companies design scalable people systems that empower both performance and wellbeing. Cassandra is also a thought leader on HR tech, DEI, and the future of work, sharing digestible insights on LinkedIn and Instagram About Joel Lalgee Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships. Cassandra Rose Fringe LinkedIn Website Instagram Recruiting is No Joke Social Media LinkedIn Website Instagram TikTok X (formerly Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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    46 分
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