What if the fastest way to break into cybersecurity isn’t another cert, but a soldering iron, a home lab, and the courage to say “I don’t know”? We sit down with Rob “Bowtie Security Guy” Whetstine—prop builder, mentor, and former Disney security leader—who built his career from other people’s discarded tech and turned a bow tie into a personal brand that helped him conquer social anxiety and stand out in rooms that matter.

Rob takes us from dumpster diving to Fortune 500 leadership and lays out a practical roadmap for anyone trying to enter or advance in cyber. We talk about why tinkering beats test prep, how to build troubleshooting instincts, and what it really takes to succeed in high-pressure interviews at places like Disney, Google, and Amazon. Rob makes a compelling case for servant leadership: define success clearly, protect vacations, build redundancy, and bring calm to incident chaos with a simple check—“Is anyone dying?” The result is strong, sustainable teams that deliver consistently without burning out.

We also tackle the uncomfortable truth behind the “cyber talent shortage.” Many of those roles are unfunded headcount, which is why entry-level postings get thousands of applications and interviews flow through referrals. Rob shares how he social-engineered LinkedIn, sent targeted video intros, and turned weak ties into opportunities. If you’re neurodivergent, you’ll hear concrete ways companies can interview better—advance questions, work samples, real accommodations—and why honesty about gaps earns trust. The through line is simple: passion and proof beat pedigree when paired with clear communication and relentless curiosity.

Join us for a candid, practical, and human conversation that will sharpen your job hunt, reshape your leadership, and remind you why solving real problems matters more than sounding smart. If this resonated, subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a quick review to help more listeners find the show.

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