In this episode of the Faithly Podcast, Alicia Lee is joined by Joshua James, Executive Director of Likewise Worship—a ministry committed to serving worship leaders for the long haul—for a conversation about what it really takes to sustain healthy leadership in today’s church.

Josh shares the origin story of Likewise Worship, born from founder Justin Unger’s desire to develop young leaders. What began as training and coaching soon deepened into a soul care mission, as they encountered increasing stories of burnout, isolation, and leaders quietly stepping away from ministry. From personal stories to practical tools like the Worship Leader Health Check, Josh offers insight into the unique pressures worship leaders face—from platform-driven culture to the demands of bi-vocational life—and how churches can create communities where leaders are not only empowered to serve, but fully supported and deeply seen.

Website: https://www.likewiseworship.com/

(00:00) A Hunger for Belonging and Authenticity
(05:29) Scaling Without Losing the Local Church and Relationships
(11:10) How Culture Shapes Community Across Different Cities
(16:59) Defining Burnout and Why Worship Leaders Feel Stuck
(22:00) Three Marks of a Healthy Leader
(31:08) Building Trust, Offering Care, and Knowing When to Refer Out
(37:58) Supporting Bi-vocational and Volunteer Worship Leaders
(43:13) Hope for the Church

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