We had the gift of talking with Dr. David Gushee, Distinguished University Professor of Christian Ethics, at Mercer University’s McAfee School of Theology. We explore the growing reality many leaders face after leaving evangelical systems, including the loss of networks, denominations, and long-held partnerships, while still carrying a deep sense of calling.

Dr. Gushee speaks to this cultural moment with both clarity and hope. As more exvangelicals search for a place to land, the question is not only what they are leaving behind, but where they are being called next.

He points to the Post Evangelical Collective as a path forward. It is a space for thoughtful, justice-oriented leaders to reconnect, collaborate, and continue their work in new ways. He believes this cultural moment is a chance to recenter the moral teachings of Jesus for a new generation.

Learn more about David Gushee’s work here: https://www.davidpgushee.com/

Learn more about the Post-Evangelical Collective by visiting our website here: www.postevangelicalcollective.org

Register for the National Gathering here: http://postevangelicalcollective.org/events/national-gathering-2026

Today we sit down with Charles Kiser, D.Min, and Mallory Wyckoff, D.Min of the Healing Collective. Together, they explore the deep need for healing among post-evangelical leaders. Many have left systems that shaped them but also wounded them, and yet they continue to carry a call to serve.

Charles and Mallory invite us to consider that healing is not optional for this next season of leadership. It is essential. Through integrative practices that engage the body, mind, and spirit, they offer a vision of healing that moves beyond survival and into wholeness.

This conversation connects directly to the work of the Post Evangelical Collective. If leaders are going to build something new, they must also tend to what has been broken within them. If you are still called to serve but know there is healing work to do, this episode offers both language and a path forward.

Learn more about The Healing Collective here: https://www.thehealingcollective.space/

Find Charles’s book here: Trauma-Informed Evangelism: Cultivating Communities of Wounded Healers

Find Mallory’s book here: God Is

Learn more about the Post-Evangelical Collective by visiting our website here: www.postevangelicalcollective.org

Register for the National Gathering here: http://postevangelicalcollective.org/events/national-gathering-2026

In this first episode of the Post Evangelical Collective podcast featuring our national conference sponsors, host Fred Harrell interviews Keri Ladouceur, Executive Director of the Post Evangelical Collective. Together they unpack how the Post Evangelical Collective seeks to cultivate an ecosystem of pastors, artists, and leaders who are reimagining the ways of Jesus in our time. This series will highlight sponsors who help us connect, resource and cultivate this post evangelical imagination for a liberative Christian spirituality...

Learn more about the Post-Evangelical Collective by visiting our website here: www.postevangelicalcollective.org

Learn more about Fred and Keri here: The Team — Post-Evangelical Collective

Register for the National Gathering here: http://postevangelicalcollective.org/events/national-gathering-2026