This week we’re talking great escapes. Men backed into a corner and forced to break the rules to get out. Anneliese tells us about the 1962 escape from Alcatraz, and Ellie reminisces on the golden age of Bachelor Nation, when Colton jumped the fence.

Who are we rooting for? Where are these men now? How did they pull it off? We’ll get into all of it.

Plus: Ellie gets some unexpected mail, the stress of choosing a marker when coloring, and the curse of being named Sincere.

As any good self help book will tell you, “no” is a complete sentence. Today we tell the stories of two icons who said drew a boundary, said no, and walked away from the opportunity of a lifetime.

Philip Benizi was offered the chance to be literal Pope and he fled to a cave until the election was over to avoid the title. America’s Next Top Model contestant Natalie (maybe) made it to the semifinals of auditions only to determine that this path wasn’t right for her. Today, we celebrate their strength and knowledge of self and ponder how their actions shaped religious institutions and generations to come.

Plus: our reactions to the first half of the Knicks game that would become the greatest comeback in NBA finals history (we didn’t know, sorry for being negative), doing too much at Corporate Drag Bingo, and getting uninvited from Shrimp Fest 2024.

Every once in a while, a woman gives birth in a way that really makes people stop and stare. In 1978, that woman was Lesley Brown, who gave birth to the first baby conceived via IVF. In 2009, that woman was Nadya Suleman, also known as the Octomom, who gave birth to octuplets and became a media sensation.

Why did these births draw such intense public reaction? How did the media attention affect their children? And most importantly, was Octomom in it for the fame??

Plus: Jumping on the Knicks bandwagon, the importance of morally flawed Islanders, and how Beaker has stolen Erlenmeyer Flask’s clout for generations.