What does honest politics actually sound like?

In this episode, we sit down with Nick McGowan, Victorian MP, Shadow Minister for Environment, and Shadow Minister for Fire Services, for one of the most open, direct, and thought-provoking conversations we’ve had on the podcast.

Nick shares his journey from knowing in grade five that he wanted to be a member of parliament, to standing for council at 18, working in politics, serving with the United Nations in conflict-affected regions, and now tackling environmental issues here in Victoria.

But this conversation goes well beyond party politics!

We cover leadership, public service, trust, respect, tribalism, education, community, renewable energy, environmental protection, PFAS, waste, invasive species, and why Australia can still lead by example.

Nick is brutally honest, deeply considered, and refreshingly willing to say what he actually thinks.

If you care about politics, the environment, leadership, or where Victoria is heading, this one is worth your time.

⚡ What we cover:

✅ Why politics is not about being liked
✅ Respect vs popularity in public life
✅ Nick’s early passion for politics and the environment
✅ Standing for council at 18
✅ Working with the United Nations in Africa
✅ What war zones teach you about peace and leadership
✅ Why Australia should lead by example on the environment
✅ Renewable energy, storage, housing and sustainability
✅ PFAS, microplastics and “forever chemicals”
✅ Invasive species, waste, public transport and practical fixes
✅ Why local representatives matter more than tribal politics

This is a raw, thoughtful, and genuinely different conversation about politics, people, and the environment and from Greenwood Academy's perspective, a real eye opener!