What do you do when every voice claims to have the truth?

In our current political division, social unrest, and conflicting perspectives, it’s hard to know what – or who – to trust. In this episode of Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast, Rev. Trudy Robinson and Rev. Dr. Hannah Ka turn to an unexpected voice: the prophet Micah.

Though written over 2,700 years ago, Micah’s words feel strikingly relevant today.

The female pastors of First UMC of San Diego explore:

• Why prophets spoke out against power
• The tension between personal and social holiness
• How we choose which voices to trust
• The danger of using faith to justify power
• What it truly means to walk humbly with God

This conversation is based on Micah 3:4-12 and is the first of three conversations surrounding Micah’s well-known proclamation to “walk humbly, love kindness, and do justice.” Because in times of uncertainty like these, Micah’s words remind us that faith isn’t about certainty – it’s about humility, justice, and courage.

Reflection Questions:

1. Where have you seen gifts used with integrity, even when it costs you something?
2. What does “walk humbly” look like in positions of power, influence, and leadership?
3. What makes you realize that you must be humble before God?

Continue the Discussion:
There’s so much more to discuss when it comes to Micah’s concept of walking humbly with God. Join one of our groups to keep the discussion going: In-Person Convergence, in the Chapel on Sundays at 12 PM, or our Patreon Online Community.

Timestamps:
00:00 When Truth Feels Impossible to Find
02:17 Micah’s Warning: Corruption, Power, and Silence
04:56 Personal vs. Social Holiness
06:03 Why Ancient Times Feel Like Today
08:20 Speaking Truth to Power (Then and Now)
11:12 The Cost Living Your Calling vs. Pleasing People
15:37 Listening to the Voices That Are Silenced
17:42 Christian Nationalism & Micah’s Warning
21:22 Power vs. Love: How Do We Discern Truth?
25:14 Closing Reflections & Discussion Questions

Apostle Paul: Was he right or was he wrong? Have Christians misunderstood him for centuries?

That’s what Revs. Trudy and Brittany explore in this conversation of Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast. Join the two female pastors as they talk Apostle Paul, resurrection, salvation, end-times theology, Christian nationalism, and what matters most in following Jesus today.

The Apostle Paul is one of Christianity’s most debated figures. Some Christians deeply value Paul’s letters. Others struggle with how his words have been used to exclude, shame, or harm people. Can both be true?

Together, they explore:

• What Paul may have meant in 1 Corinthians 15:1-8
• Why resurrection still matters in a hurting world
• How Paul is used for “us vs. them” religion
• The danger of focusing only on heaven instead of justice now
• Christian nationalism and eschatology (end-times theology)
• What Jesus prioritized above theological certainty

In this third and final conversation of our “The Grace of the Passion Series,” we’re reminded that faith isn’t about getting every doctrine perfect. But instead, it’s about loving God and loving neighbor.

Join the conversation with these reflection questions:

1. How do you connect Jesus’ life and his resurrection?
2. How does your belief in the resurrection change the way you see the future? Your life?
3. What are the details of your theology that you are hesitant to let go of?

Need a conversation partner? Chat online with our Patreon community or join Convergence, our in-person discussion group that meets Sundays at 12 PM.

Timestamps:

00:00 Intro: Was Apostle Paul right or wrong?
04:08 Why Paul focuses on resurrection, not Jesus’ life
08:32 Do Christians overemphasize personal salvation?
10:20 Was Paul misunderstood and taken out of context?
16:12 Christian nationalism & end-times theology
19:12 We don’t have to take everything literally
22:23 Hope requires action, not belief alone
28:21 We don’t have to get it right—what matters most

What if faith isn't about having clarity, but about showing up even when you don't understand?

In this episode of Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast, Revs. Hannah and Brittany explore the story of Doubting Thomas in John 20:19-25 and offer a powerful reframe: What if Thomas wasn’t lacking faith but longing for a deeper, personal encounter with Christ?

Using their theological imagination, they make a case for Thomas’ deep faith in Jesus, arguing that perhaps his doubts weren’t in the risen Christ but the lack of spiritual growth in his fellow disciples.

As part of our series “The Grace of the Passion,” we reflect on how Jesus meets the disciples behind closed – in fear, grief, and uncertainty – and how that same presence meets us today … if we open ourselves to tension and uncomfortable emotions.

The conversation dives into:

• Doubt, grief, and spiritual FOMO
• Why emotions are essentials to faith – not obstacles
• Moving from “either/or” thinking to a “both/and” faith
• Experiencing the risen Christ in everyday relationships
• Letting go of the pressure to “have it all figured out”

Maybe the question isn’t: “Do I believe enough?” Maybe it’s: “Am I open to encountering Christ in a new way?”

Reflection Questions:

1. Where in your life do you feel like you have to have everything figured out?
2. What helps you stay connected to God when you’re unsure or struggling?
3. When have you felt like Thomas, left out of something meaningful or sacred?

We invite you to reflect on this conversation with someone you trust, online with our Patreon group, or in-person at our weekly Convergence Discussion Group.

Limited on time? Jump ahead:

Timestamps
00:00 What if faith isn’t about clarity?
00:26 Welcome + Episode Overview
00:48 Reading John 20,19-25 (Doubting Thomas)
02:29 Is Thomas really “doubting”?
05:44 Grace, grief, and missing out (FOMO)
07:11 Jesus meets us in fear and emotion
10:50 Faith as relationship, not certainty
15:09 Ongoing faith vs “one moment” belief
19:10 Living in tension (key insight)
22:18 A new question for faith
23:02 Reflection questions + closing