110: Part 10/12: Greg Kelly Says Grace is a Springboard for Transformation: How to Build a Relationship with God Series

In this episode of Permission to Be Human, hosts Janelle Orion and Andrea Enright sit down with investor Greg Kelly for a conversation that refuses to play small. They dive into the messy, mystical, utterly human process of building a relationship with God—one that's less about dogma and more about direct experience, curiosity, and love in motion. Greg, raised Catholic, opens up about his encounters with the divine, the healing tension between skepticism and faith, and how a simple postcard project became a quiet revolution of compassion. It's an unexpectedly rip-roaring good time. There's a nod to Les Mis, siritual consultant Kristin Bredimus and The Emerald podcast. You'll hear:

-Why if we make space, a relationship with God is always available.

-An encounter with a witch, Jesus and spirits in Boston

-A new take of the "placebo" effect

-How faith can unlock dormant human potential. For real.

-Why logic vs. mysticism is part of the spiritual path.

-Greg's definition of Grace--a springboard for transformation

-About the day a pedestrian ran out in front of his car

-How spirituality and mental health are often playing together

-Why playing your little part in peace might be enough

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We're Andrea and Janelle--two midlife mavericks sharing openly about our own experiences--messy AF and no regrets----with marriage, divorce, polyamory and pleasure.

You'll hear from relationship experts, meet real life Bravehearts and get intimacy skills.

Truth: When we're brave enough to ask for what we want, honor our boundaries and have the hard conversations--with partners, friends, family and, most importantly, ourselves--magic happens and happiness ensues.

If you're seeking permission to create a new map for relationships and want to feel less alone along the way, we got you.

With glitter and radical acceptance,
Janelle & Andrea.

Follow, subscribe and share!Learn more about us at: https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/

Music: "Running Wild" by LVDY
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109: Part 9/12: Crafting Christianity Your Own Way with Dani: How to Build A Relationship with God Series

Janelle and Andrea sit down with psychotherapist, Ashkenazi and spiritual fire-starter Dani Grace to unravel the tender, tangled, and often taboo terrain of faith, godliness, and what it means to rebuild Christianity on your own terms--no culture war rhetoric included. This conversation dives into the Universal Christ, and how Dani went from atheism to a reclaimed, rebuilt, curiosity-fueled faith, but didn't leave her intellectualism behind. This is a conversation for anyone who has been burned by institutional Christianity….. someone who misses God, but not the rules. There's a big nod to Internal Family Systems and The Big Bang. You'll hear:

-How the Universal Christ peeks into personal awakening

=How community curiosity (and volleyball) led Dani home

-The difference between self-knowledge and God-knowledge

-How suffering can give God space to speak\

-A new lens on WWJD bracelets 2.0

-How therapy can clear the debris between you and God.

-Why IFS works WITH Christ consciousness

Learn more about Dani Grace at sacredlightjourneys.life

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We're Andrea and Janelle--two midlife mavericks sharing openly about our own experiences--messy AF and no regrets----with marriage, divorce, polyamory and pleasure.

You'll hear from relationship experts, meet real life Bravehearts and get intimacy skills.

Truth: When we're brave enough to ask for what we want, honor our boundaries and have the hard conversations--with partners, friends, family and, most importantly, ourselves--magic happens and happiness ensues.

If you're seeking permission to create a new map for relationships and want to feel less alone along the way, we got you.

With glitter and radical acceptance,
Janelle & Andrea.

Follow, subscribe and share!Learn more about us at: https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/

Music: "Running Wild" by LVDY
https://www.lvdymusic.com/

108: Part 8/12: A Brandi-Carlisle-Loving Jewish Mom on Community, Guilt, Rabbis & the Superbowl: How to Build a Relationship with God Series

In this episode of Permission to Be Human, Andrea Enright and Janelle Orion sit down with dedicated mom, wife and Jewish-born Denverite Tara Zucker for a dear and down-to-earth conversation about modern-day Jewish life and what that means for a spiritual relationship. They touch on how the greater community, the Torah, the structure and the teachings fuels Tara's sense of belonging., and how ancient traditions and family rituals have helped her navigate a world of conflict and suffering. There's a nod to Brandi Carlisle, and Dansko clogs ;-) You'll hear:

-Why her connection to God is less prayer, more practical life

-All about Judaism's take on the afterlife

-The absence of recruitment in the Jewish faith. No saving required.

-How community, gathering and ritual helps Tara feel held

-Why tuna fish is an important contribution for her particular temple

-How Judaism (and two female rabbis) help Tara relate to the world

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We're Andrea and Janelle--two midlife mavericks sharing openly about our own experiences--messy AF and no regrets----with marriage, divorce, polyamory and pleasure.

You'll hear from relationship experts, meet real life Bravehearts and get intimacy skills.

Truth: When we're brave enough to ask for what we want, honor our boundaries and have the hard conversations--with partners, friends, family and, most importantly, ourselves--magic happens and happiness ensues.

If you're seeking permission to create a new map for relationships and want to feel less alone along the way, we got you.

With glitter and radical acceptance,
Janelle & Andrea.

Follow, subscribe and share!Learn more about us at: https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/

Music: "Running Wild" by LVDY
https://www.lvdymusic.com/

In this episode, Janelle Orion and Andrea Enright sit down with Juliana Luna — self-proclaimed sorceress — to explore what it really means to live in devotion. Luna invites us into her Afro-Brazilian lineage, where spirit and ancestry aren't abstract ideas — they're living, breathing forces. Together, they unravel the dance between suffering and peace, the breath as a bridge to Shakti, and the rituals that root us in integrity. Luna reminds us that nature — especially trees — are not resources, but relatives. That helping others means serving, not saving. And that real peace isn't a mood — it's a practice. You'll hear:

-Why she ran away from home at age 8

-Exactly what an ancient and modern sorceress embodies

-Why honoring our ancestors can help guide our life

-How suffering and peace aren't opposites — they're teachers trading places.

-Why the term "less fortunate" doesn't work for her.

-An explanation of why peace is active, not passive.

-How to connect to nature--today.

-How to ensure service is sourced from integrity--not ego

-How Luna hears divine wisdom above the sound of cultural noise

Find her online at www.julianaluna.live and @‌julianaluna on Instagram

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We're Andrea and Janelle--two midlife mavericks sharing openly about our own experiences--messy AF and no regrets----with marriage, divorce, polyamory and pleasure.

You'll hear from relationship experts, meet real life Bravehearts and get intimacy skills.

Truth: When we're brave enough to ask for what we want, honor our boundaries and have the hard conversations--with partners, friends, family and, most importantly, ourselves--magic happens and happiness ensues.

If you're seeking permission to create a new map for relationships and want to feel less alone along the way, we got you.

With glitter and radical acceptance,
Janelle & Andrea.

Follow, subscribe and share!Learn more about us at: https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/

Music: "Running Wild" by LVDY
https://www.lvdymusic.com/

106: Part 6/12: Losing Yourself & Finding Spirit: Devotion over Discipline with Breath-worker Claudia Nanino: How to Build a Relationship with God Series

In this episode of Permission to Be Human, hosts Andrea Enright and Janelle Orion sit down with Claudia Nanino, a master breathwork facilitator who's learned to make peace with change by breathing straight through it. Claudia opens up about a childhood of Roman Catholicism, leaving behind polished identities, mothering while awakening, and realizing a relationship with God is a "reconnection" and that it can look however works best for you. They talk about how to nurture a beautiful connection to spirit, why self-forgiveness is essential, her intentionality in giving back and how verything she thought she was supposed to be had to die before she could breathe. There's a nod to 'The Four Agreements" by Miguel Ruiz, "Many Lives, Many Masters" by Dr. Brian Weiss and the Ho'oponopono Prayer. You'll hear:

-Claudia's journey of choosing devotion over discipline

-Why she eventually traded control for communion

-How rituals can keep us anchored to spirit

-Why Claudia believes everything is God, even you

-Her story of how releasing old identities set her free

-Claudia's go-to phrase when she's in conflict

-Why vulnerability builds muscle where armor used to be.

-Some insight on raising teenagers in a spiritual setting (hint: just model it)

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We're Andrea and Janelle--two midlife mavericks sharing openly about our own experiences--messy AF and no regrets----with marriage, divorce, polyamory and pleasure.

You'll hear from relationship experts, meet real life Bravehearts and get intimacy skills.

Truth: When we're brave enough to ask for what we want, honor our boundaries and have the hard conversations--with partners, friends, family and, most importantly, ourselves--magic happens and happiness ensues.

If you're seeking permission to create a new map for relationships and want to feel less alone along the way, we got you.

With glitter and radical acceptance,
Janelle & Andrea.

Follow, subscribe and share!Learn more about us at: https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/

Music: "Running Wild" by LVDY
https://www.lvdymusic.com/

105: Part 5/12, Love & Honesty from a Woman on a Traditional Catholic Journey: How to Build a Relationship with God Series

In this soft-spoken episode of Permission to Be Human, Janelle and Andrea sit down with the earnest Melissa Detwiller for a conversation about Catholicism and how she finds guidance in God every day. Melissa opens up about her faith journey—how God helped her navigate a lonely path as an immigrant at 14, and continues to keep her centered amidst her community and family of five. Together, they dive into her consistent practices of faith, her preference for religion over spirituality and the quiet rebellion of choosing love in a loud, divided world. This episode isn't just about belief—it's about belonging, becoming, and being brave enough to listen when God speaks in whispers. You'll hear:

-Why faith doesn't need a formula--you can meet God in the mundane or the mess.

-A reminder that YouTube is a totally viable resource for sermon

-How God became a "person" to Melissa

-Where she ends and God begins.

-The power of shared beliefs, especially in today's world.

-Why Melissa's relationship is practice and process rather than performance

-A redefinition of "confession" and how it might be the meaning of life

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We're Andrea and Janelle--two midlife mavericks sharing openly about our own experiences--messy AF and no regrets----with marriage, divorce, polyamory and pleasure.

You'll hear from relationship experts, meet real life Bravehearts and get intimacy skills.

Truth: When we're brave enough to ask for what we want, honor our boundaries and have the hard conversations--with partners, friends, family and, most importantly, ourselves--magic happens and happiness ensues.

If you're seeking permission to create a new map for relationships and want to feel less alone along the way, we got you.

With glitter and radical acceptance,
Janelle & Andrea.

Follow, subscribe and share!Learn more about us at: https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/

Music: "Running Wild" by LVDY
https://www.lvdymusic.com/

104: Part 3/12, Priestess & Rabbi Sarah Bracha talks Non-Duality, Joy, Oat Lattes & Hot Sex: How to Build a Relationship with God Series

What if God isn't a bearded sky-dad, but a pulse of presence running in and out through every moment—every heartbreak, every art project, every awkward conversation? In this episode, we sit down with Sarah Bracha Gershuny—freelance rabbi, professional priestess, and all-around mystic renegade—to explore what it really means build a relationship with spirit in a messy, modern world. Sarah speaks to the importance of presence (really another name for God) and drops deep wisdom on listening to your inner voice, navigating religious baggage, and how what you know and love (Sarah refers to these as breadcrumbs and her own include hot sex and oat lattes) can help you find your way. You'll hear:

-A little Non-Duality 101 (we are literally all in this together)

-How the divine is in the details too (dirt, dishes, dentist appts)

-Why the act of prayer can be the transformation in itself

-How community can replaces OR compliment the idea of God

-Sarah's "yes and" journey of retaining her Jewish roots and adding her own ideas

-What if spiritual belonging isn't about belief…but presence?

-How the "way opened" for Sarah (hint: devotion, creativity)

-A bit about the collective consciousness & Jewish Renewal

Follow Sarah on Substack: https://substack.com/@priestessrabbi

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We're Andrea and Janelle--two midlife mavericks sharing openly about our own experiences--messy AF and no regrets----with marriage, divorce, polyamory and pleasure.

You'll hear from relationship experts, meet real life Bravehearts and get intimacy skills.

Truth: When we're brave enough to ask for what we want, honor our boundaries and have the hard conversations--with partners, friends, family and, most importantly, ourselves--magic happens and happiness ensues.

If you're seeking permission to create a new map for relationships and want to feel less alone along the way, we got you.

With glitter and radical acceptance,
Janelle & Andrea.

Follow, subscribe and share!Learn more about us at: https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/

Music: "Running Wild" by LVDY
https://www.lvdymusic.com/

103: Part 2/12: Andrea on Faith, Feet Washing, Nike & Nick Cave: How to Build a Relationship with God Series

In this luminous convo, Andrea traces the wild arc of her evolving relationship with God — from a routine Catholic childhood to meaningful moments in the woods, Jerusalem, Bucharest and Buddhism--and then finally to Rumi's field, where she found her intuition. Together, they ask: what happens when we stop trying to find God and instead feel God within? This dialogue is both pilgrimage and permission slip — an invocation to question, to trust, to unlearn. If you've felt the pull between devotion and doubt, and sense the sacred might be nearby, listen up. There's a nod to Nick Cave's "Faith, Hope & Carnage", Natalie Goldberg's "Long Quiet Highway" and Marcus J. Borg's "Meeting Jesus Again for the First Time" as well as Elizabeth Gilbert. You'll hear:

-Why Andrea cried so much at the Garden Tomb

-Reasons to be grateful for a Catholic upbringing

-The two books that changed the course of her spirit journey

-How a Zoom meeting is like a Catholic mass

-How Andrea's prayer has evolved from begging to being in the now

-Why feet-washing reminds her to be kind

-Why every version of God points to the same love.

-Where Buddhism and Christianity meet for her

-Why she thinks Nike was right----there's no finish line, only the next unfolding.

-How a relationship with God makes her feel more like herself

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We're Andrea and Janelle--two midlife mavericks sharing openly about our own experiences--messy AF and no regrets----with marriage, divorce, polyamory and pleasure.

You'll hear from relationship experts, meet real life Bravehearts and get intimacy skills.

Truth: When we're brave enough to ask for what we want, honor our boundaries and have the hard conversations--with partners, friends, family and, most importantly, ourselves--magic happens and happiness ensues.

If you're seeking permission to create a new map for relationships and want to feel less alone along the way, we got you.

With glitter and radical acceptance,
Janelle & Andrea.

Follow, subscribe and share!Learn more about us at: https://www.permissiontobehuman.live/

Music: "Running Wild" by LVDY
https://www.lvdymusic.com/