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People and Projects Podcast: Project Management Podcast

People and Projects Podcast: Project Management Podcast

著者： Andy Kaufman PMP PMI-ACP
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Welcome to the People and Projects Podcast, where we provide interviews and insights to help you lead people and deliver projects. Since 2009, this show is brought to you by speaker, author, and executive coach Andy Kaufman. If you're looking for insights on project management, leadership, and how AI influences both of those, you've come to the right place! And if you hold a project management certification, you can even earn free PDUs for listening!(c) 2001-2025 Institute for Leadership Excellence & Development Inc. マネジメント マネジメント・リーダーシップ 出世 就職活動 経済学
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  • PPP 520 | Are Smarter AI Tools Making Us Less Capable?, with LEGO® Serious Play® co-creator Johan Roos

    PPP 520 | Are Smarter AI Tools Making Us Less Capable?, with LEGO® Serious Play® co-creator Johan Roos
    2026/08/21
    Summary In this episode, Andy sits down with Johan Roos, professor and executive advisor at Hult International Business School, Executive Director of the Peter Drucker Society Europe, and co-inventor of the LEGO® Serious Play® method. Johan is the author of Human Magic: Leading with Wisdom in an Age of Algorithms, and he has spent decades studying how people think, create, decide, and lead together. Andy and Johan explore the two paths Johan calls erosion and amplification, starting with a question Andy has been wrestling with as he hands more of his manual driving over to Tesla's self-driving. You'll hear what an eroding project manager actually looks like day-to-day, why practical wisdom matters when the analytically optimal answer is not the wisest one, and how AI feeds one kind of curiosity, the laser, while starving another, the radar. Johan also explains the difference between becoming an AI concierge and practicing what he calls professional citizenship, and he shares what parents can do to help their kids hold onto the messy, hands-on curiosity that machines cannot supply. If you're looking for a thoughtful, hopeful way to use AI without surrendering your judgment, this episode is for you! Sound Bites "Almost every good idea I've had was not in front of the screen.""I know what to do, but I've stopped understanding why.".... The eroding project management can no longer explain the why.""So in a sense, they argue that the better the system, the stronger pull down the erosion curve.""So the message is really when the machines are taking over more and more of some of these subtle, very valuable capabilities we have, we have to climb the value creation ladder.""So a complexity is exactly where our wisdom gets exposed.""So every metric said fantastic, but nobody asked why, and is this right?""If AI can write a document that is important to you, the document was never where the value lived.""But we just have to be careful to not sort of delegate too much of our brain power and sort of erode our jelly bean.""When you lean back and you haven't struggled enough, you may be super smart and, and the best brilliant individual in the world, but, you know, friction is good.""Are you able to argue for your case without holding on to the AI-produced slide?""Protect the wandering curiosity, unstructured exploration, questions with no immediate payoff, the freedom to follow something nowhere in particular." Chapters 00:00 Introduction02:35 Start of Interview02:44 Growing Up Inquisitive and the Power of "Because"06:04 Self-Driving Cars, GPS, and the Erosion of Our Abilities10:31 Becoming an Active Supervisor Instead of a Passive Passenger13:55 What an Eroding Project Manager Looks Like Day to Day18:52 When the Optimal Answer Is Not the Wisest One22:03 Intuition, Gut Feel, and When Something Does Not Smell Right25:54 The Laser and the Radar: Two Kinds of Curiosity27:52 Creating Independently Before Consulting AI30:44 What Happens in the AI-Free Time35:18 Is It Intuition or Is It Ego?37:48 Turning the Models Loose on His Own Book40:00 Asking AI to Be Brutally Honest41:02 AI Concierge Versus Professional Citizenship45:51 Advice for Parents Raising Kids in the Age of AI49:26 Staying Human: Theater, Walks, and Getting Your Hands Dirty50:44 End of Interview51:15 Andy Comments After the Interview54:46 Outtakes Learn More You can learn more about Johan and his work at humanmagic.one. For more learning on this topic, check out: Episode 500 with Steve Brown. Steve is a former Google DeepMind futurist, and he has a unique perspective on where we've been and where we're going with AI.Episode 479 with Matt Mong. Matt shares his take on the AI skills we need to stay relevant in the years to come.Episode 463 with Faisal Hoque. Faisal helps us go beyond the fear and the hype around AI to a helpful way to think about the human-AI relationship. Chat with PMeLa You can chat directly with PMeLa, the podcast's AI persona, to get episode recommendations and answers to your project management and leadership questions. Visit PeopleAndProjectsPodcast.com/PMeLa to chat with her. Join Us for LEAD52 I know you want to be a more confident leader–that's why you listen to this podcast. LEAD52 is a global community of people like you who are committed to transforming their ability to lead and deliver. It's 52 weeks of leadership learning, delivered right to your inbox, taking less than 5 minutes a week. And it's all for free. Learn more and sign up at GetLEAD52.com. Thanks! Thank you for joining me for this episode of The People and Projects Podcast! Talent Triangle: Business Acumen Topics: Leadership, Project Management, Artificial Intelligence, Practical Wisdom, Curiosity, Critical Thinking, Creativity, Decision Making, Judgment, Professional Development, Human Skills, Parenting The following music was used for this episode: Music: Echo by Alexander Nakarada License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license Music: Chillhouse by ...
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  • PPP 519 | Overcoming the Inner Propaganda That Sabotages Projects and Teams, with Owen Fitzpatrick

    PPP 519 | Overcoming the Inner Propaganda That Sabotages Projects and Teams, with Owen Fitzpatrick
    2026/08/14
    Summary In this episode, Andy sits down with Owen Fitzpatrick, a psychologist, speaker, and author of Inner Propaganda: Leading Hearts and Minds through Turbulent Times. Owen has spent close to 30 years studying how beliefs form and change, interviewing people everywhere from North Korea to Rwanda to Afghanistan. His thesis is unsettling: our brains do not simply take in facts and reach objective conclusions. They build a story we then experience as reality. Owen and Andy work through what that means on real projects. You'll hear how a warning from a colleague can quietly harden into a conviction about a teammate, and how Bayesian reasoning gives you a way out. You'll learn Owen's five types of truth, how to tell courageous conviction from dangerous denial, and what leaders can actually make stable when they cannot promise a stable outcome. Owen also explains why pushing harder for buy-in is often the very reason people resist, and how an antifragile identity helps teams face uncertainty like AI without denial or panic. If you're looking for a fresh way to think about belief, influence, and leading through turbulent times, this episode is for you! Sound Bites "We all live in that world where we think we're the one person that isn't the victim of propaganda, and my point or my thesis is we're all victims of our own inner propaganda.""We're not necessarily just convinced by others. We convince ourselves.""Because I think when we say, 'I'm no good at something,' we lock ourselves into it.""Well, if you're not great at communicating with people, get great.""Most of the time our beliefs just create a sort of a reality for us, and that reality can help us or harm us.""So our brains are prediction machines.""Whenever we talk about belief, believing in your ability to succeed in the future is critical if you want to succeed in the future, but that doesn't mean you deny the present.""It, it's not that we think negatively, it's we believe negatively, and we see the world through those lenses.""So I think we want to be able to challenge our beliefs and build a bit more and get more comfortable with uncertainty away from the table, but when we're at the table with our team, that's when we bring the certainty.""We like the idea that we are making this decision of our own free will.""And when you look at what a belief is, a belief is an idea we feel certain about, and that word feel is the most important word of that sentence.""It's okay to believe less in certain things. It's okay to believe more in certain things. It's okay to believe better." Chapters 00:00 Introduction02:29 Start of Interview02:40 The Belief About Himself Owen Took Too Long to Update05:56 A Sweaty Debate Speech and What Came After08:28 Not Good at Something Is a Skill Gap, Not an Identity09:45 The Belief Growth Mindset12:55 The Sandra Story: When a Warning Becomes a Conviction14:07 Why the Brain Craves Cognitive Closure17:15 Using Bayesian Reasoning to Loosen a Belief21:00 Melanie Perkins and Alan Mulally: Conviction or Denial?21:36 The Five Types of Truth26:24 Just Because It Is Your Truth Does Not Make It True28:41 Where Objective Truth Actually Belongs31:47 What "Leadership Is Propaganda" Does Not Mean34:45 Why Change Management and AI Adoption Stall36:30 Why Owen Chose Propaganda Over Self-Talk37:57 Do I Believe It Because It Makes Me Look Good?38:49 Answering the AI Question Without Denial or Hype40:15 Building an Antifragile Identity44:27 Certainty Is Contagious, and When to Change Course45:20 What Leaders Can Make Stable in a Volatile Period47:45 Control What You Can, Influence What You Can, Accept the Rest51:01 When Pushing for Buy-In Creates the Resistance52:45 You're Asking the Wrong Question About Persuasion54:30 Reading the Person Before You Make the Ask57:30 Helping Kids Hold Strong Beliefs Without Contempt1:01:46 End of Interview1:02:15 Andy Comments After the Interview1:05:09 Outtakes Learn More You can learn more about Owen and his work at InnerPropaganda.com. For more learning on this topic, check out: Episode 370 with Chantel Prat. One of the smartest, clearest, and funniest books on the brain, and why all of it matters for how you lead.Episodes 59 and 60 with Cathy Davidson. She explains how the brain science of attention changes everything.Episode 32 with Brad Kolar. A look at the direct implications of neuroscience for leadership.Owen's TED Talk, available here on YouTube. Chat with PMeLa You can chat directly with PMeLa, the podcast's AI persona, to get episode recommendations and answers to your project management and leadership questions. Visit PeopleAndProjectsPodcast.com/PMeLa to chat with her. Join Us for LEAD52 I know you want to be a more confident leader–that's why you listen to this podcast. LEAD52 is a global community of people like you who are committed to transforming their ability to lead and deliver. It's 52 weeks of leadership learning, delivered right to your inbox, taking less than 5 minutes a week. And ...
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  • PPP 518 | Why Better AI Prompts Aren't Enough for Better Decisions, with author Cheryl Strauss Einhorn

    PPP 518 | Why Better AI Prompts Aren't Enough for Better Decisions, with author Cheryl Strauss Einhorn
    2026/08/07
    Summary In this episode, Andy welcomes Cheryl Strauss Einhorn, founder and CEO of the decision sciences company Decisive and author of The Human Edge: Smarter Decisions in the Age of AI. Cheryl has spent decades helping people make better decisions, and her message here is a simple one: AI can gather, summarize, and compare, but it can't know what matters most unless we do the thinking first. Andy and Cheryl talk about why "AI first" can quietly turn into AI only, and why a poor answer from AI is actually useful feedback about your own thinking. Cheryl explains why separating the what of a decision from the why can change the path forward, shares her vision of success question, and walks through how human bias and AI bias reinforce each other. You'll also hear a practical way to use AI personas to pressure test your thinking before a big stakeholder conversation, plus what parents can do to help kids strengthen their decision-making muscles instead of letting them atrophy. If you're looking for practical ways to make smarter decisions in the age of AI, this episode is for you! Sound Bites "AI is about patterns, but we're about purpose.""We need to be the chief deciders in our own life.""We need to make sure that we actually have a way to push back and check the veracity of what it's giving us because it's a known liar.""And so the authenticity of human interaction is what actually builds trust, strengthens relationships, and really gives us a lot of the connections that are important to us in our home life and our work life.""You don't need to have a perfect prompt for AI.""AI is going to give you other people's answers.""'Knowledge is power' isn't as true now. It's what you are able to do with the knowledge, and it's why you want to collect the knowledge in the first place.""I almost never would accept AI's first answer.""We tend to have evolving hypotheses unless we really build an audit trail of our thinking.""So in the world of medicine, a fever tells you something is wrong, but it tells you nothing about what is wrong or where to look.""So first we know AI's a sycophant, right?""If it's 99% accurate in its conclusion, but its underlying data is the wrong data set, you've got the wrong answer.""I would say the more that I've studied these cognitive biases, these mental shortcuts, the more I realize that we see the world through a dirty windshield.""Our brains are muscles, and just like we exercise to strengthen our muscles, if we don't exercise, they atrophy." Chapters 00:00 Introduction02:00 Start of Interview02:12 Growing Up Surrounded by Questions04:30 What Leaders Should Watch Out for in "AI First"07:07 When AI Confidently Makes Things Up09:04 How AI First Turns into AI Only09:20 Why Polished Doesn't Mean Authentic11:59 A Prompting Problem or a Problem Definition Problem?14:37 The Vision of Success Question15:45 Why a Bad Answer Is Useful Feedback19:06 Separating the What from the Why20:32 Research: More Information Isn't Better Judgment24:35 Progressive Prompting and Never Accepting the First Answer25:18 Fabricated Quotes and the Trouble with Attribution26:50 Documenting Assumptions and Building an Audit Trail29:25 Committing to Your Own Thinking32:29 How Human Bias and AI Bias Reinforce Each Other34:55 Knowing About Biases Doesn't Make You Immune36:51 Using AI Personas to Challenge Your Thinking40:20 AI and Stakeholder Management42:42 Helping Kids Become Better Decision-Makers44:25 End of Interview44:51 Andy Comments After the Interview48:13 Outtakes Learn More You can learn more about Cheryl and her work at AREAMethod.com. For more learning on this topic, check out: Episode 460 with Joe Sutherland. It's an interesting look at the intersection of AI, data, and decision-making, and a great follow-up to this discussion.Episode 381 with Jim Loehr. One of Andy's favorite conversations about decision-making, from a remarkable figure in the human performance world.Episode 99 with Mike Roberto. A conversation about his book Why Great Leaders Don't Take Yes for an Answer, recorded long before ChatGPT showed up, and still insightful today. Chat with PMeLa You can chat directly with PMeLa, the podcast's AI persona, to get episode recommendations and answers to your project management and leadership questions. Visit PeopleAndProjectsPodcast.com/PMeLa to chat with her. Pass the PMP Exam If you or someone you know is thinking about getting PMP certified, we've put together a helpful guide called The 5 Best Resources to Help You Pass the PMP Exam on Your First Try. We've helped thousands of people earn their certification, and we'd love to help you too. It's totally free, and it's a great way to get a head start. Just go to 5BestResources.PeopleAndProjectsPodcast.com to grab your copy. I'd love to help you get your PMP this year! Join Us for LEAD52 I know you want to be a more confident leader–that's why you listen to this podcast. LEAD52 is a global community of people like you who are committed to ...
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