The vast majority of MSPs are introverts but you can still go out and do networking or speak at a public event, if you know how. Also this week, why you should be thrilled when a Super MSP comes to your town, and what’s working best in MSP search lead generation right now.

Welcome to Episode 361 of the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green, powered by the MSP Marketing Edge.

How to ace networking, even if you’re an introvert

I want to start today by sharing something personal. For most of my career, I thought that I was an extrovert. I mean, after all, I was a radio presenter, literally on the radio every day for 10 years. And now today I speak at conferences, I did ScaleCon this year, I did MSP Global again this year. And I host this podcast. These are all the activities of an extrovert, right? Well, it turns out no.

A few years ago I had a guest on this very podcast who said something that completely stopped me in my tracks. They explained that extroverts gain energy from being around people, while introverts lose energy from being around people. And it made me realise that every networking event that I’d ever been to and every conference that I’d ever spoken at, basically every room full of new people that I’d ever walked into, I’d come home and I needed a very long lie down. And my partner at the time used to find that hilarious. I would literally come back from a two-hour networking and I just needed to be on my own and recover. And neither of us really understood it at the time, but now I understand why this happened.

I am an introvert who has learned to be extroverted when the situation demands it, and that’s become normal for me. And because of that normalisation over 30 years, that’s why I thought I was an extrovert. Now, I know that a lot of MSPs are in exactly the same position. So today I want to show you how you can do the same thing, because the benefit for you is you can go out and do more networking, you might even get up on a stage and speak at a public event, which might be a nightmare idea for you right now, but very powerful if you have the power to do that. Because experts speak and experts go networking, right?

So let’s understand what’s actually happening. Let’s focus on networking. If you come away from networking events and you feel completely drained, you’re pretty much guaranteed to be an introvert. And the vast majority of MSPs that I’ve spoken to over the years, not all of them, but let’s say 70, 80% are definitely introverts. It seems to be the channel is an introverted channel. And of course, being an introvert is not a weakness or a flaw, it’s just how you and I are wired, right? We are wired to be introverts. And the difference between introverts and extroverts is fundamentally about energy. So as I said, extroverts get energised by social interactions, so they go and look for more of that social interaction. Whereas introverts are depleted by it.

Both introverts and extroverts can be brilliant and can perform well in a room full of people. It’s just the introverts need to go and do some recovery afterwards.

Recognising this about yourself is the most important step because once you understand this, you stop fighting it and you start working with it. So the goal is not to try and turn yourself into an extrovert, you can’t do that. The goal is to go and do the networking or the public speaking or whatever you do, and then protect yourself so you can recover and you can go and do it again. So here’s a couple of ways that you might do this.

Before the event, you need to protect your energy. And this is something that most advice about networking kind of ignores, it kind of bypasses or doesn’t acknowledge it. And this is where as an introvert, you can make the biggest practical difference. So you need to treat a networking...

The most powerful way for an MSP to let a prospect know who you are before they’ve ever spoken to you, is to tell them your origin story… find out how. Also this week, can you use your local community to generate leads?, and what if you could own your MSP but not have to run it?

Welcome to Episode 360 of the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green, powered by the MSP Marketing Edge.

How to use your MSP’s origin story as a marketing asset

People buy from people, not from logos, not from service descriptions, and not from lists of accreditations. They buy from people. And the most powerful way to let a prospect know who you are before they’ve ever spoken to you is to tell them your MSP’s story. Today, I want to talk about your origin story, what it is, why it matters, and where to use it across all of your marketing. So let’s start by talking about why origin stories are so important for MSPs.

Every prospect who lands on your website or your LinkedIn or just looks at any of your marketing materials is subconsciously asking themselves the same question. Who is this person and can I trust them? A list of services that you do that doesn’t answer that question, a load of certifications or qualifications or memberships, or even talking about your tech stack which is weird and bizarre but some MSPs do it, none of those answer that at all. But a genuine human story does because you are talking to people who do not understand what you sell. They don’t know what they don’t know about technology, but they are wired the same as all other humans.

As humans we’re wired for stories. From childhood stories are how we learn, how we connect, and how we decide who to trust.

And this is built-in behaviour. It’s been the same behaviour for hundreds of thousands of years since humans first evolved into the kind of people we are today. In fact, we used to use stories to pass down knowledge from generation to generation before we had written languages. So we are hardwired to really respect and respond to stories. And so a prospect who reads your origin story and feels something, they can recognise parts of that story, they’re curious about it, they feel a warmth about you and what you’ve done with your life and your business. This is a prospect who has started to trust you before they’ve even met you. That is so powerful.

The commercial reality is that people buy from people that they know, like, and trust. Those three words are the most important things: know, like, and trust. And your origin story is the fastest route for you to achieve all three. So let’s explore what an origin story actually is. First of all, it’s not your resume, it’s not your CV. It’s not a timeline of what you’ve done within the business. It’s if you like the human narrative behind why you do what you do and how you came to do it in the first place. We all have an origin story. And there’s broadly two types of origin story that works really well for MSPs.

The first is the founder’s personal journey. So how did you come to be a business owner in the first place? What drove you to start your own MSP? What did that transition look and feel like to you? This works really well because business owners are universally interested in other business owners’ stories. So there’s an instant recognition and kind of like a feeling of solidarity there. If your prospect is a business owner who themselves took a leap of faith, then they will feel something when they read about your leap of faith.

The second type of origin story that works well is the businesses evolution story, how you came to work with the kind of clients that you work with, how a natural connection or some kind of happy accident led you to focus on a particular sector or type of business, and why that specialisation has made you genuinely better at what...

What’s the difference between MSPs that are standing still right now and those that are rocketing ahead? It’s a special episode today because there’s only three months left of 2026, and I’ve actually got one of my colleagues as a special guest. He’s spent 10 years talking to MSPs about how to grow their business, and he’s going to share all of his brain with you right now.

Welcome to Episode 359 of the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green, powered by the MSP Marketing Edge.

Fast Growing MSPs Do Just TWO Things Differently

Featured guest: Ben Smith has been part of the MSP Marketing Edge journey from Day 1, he helps MSPs build simple, repeatable marketing systems that compound over time, generating consistent leads instead of chasing the latest trend.

Having spent over 15 years consulting with business owners he brings practical, real-world experience rather than marketing theory.

Away from work, you’ll usually find him outdoors with his family or working on his latest renovation project.

Hello, my name’s Ben Smith. I work with Paul at the MSP Marketing Edge.

And how has it taken so long to get you on the podcast? We’ve been doing this podcast, what, seven years or something like that?

Good question.

I know, it is a good question. And you and I have actually worked together a very long time, way longer than actually the MSP Marketing Edge has been around. We’ll explore that in a second. But it’s good to have you here today, Ben, because you talk to MSPs all day, every day, and you hear the good, the bad, sometimes you hear the ugly because your job of course is to help people with their growth, with their marketing. And that means you’ve got quite a unique insight into what’s happening with MSPs around the world right now. So do you want to just start by telling us a little bit about you and your background and how we came to work together and what exactly you do for us here in the MSP Marketing Edge?

Absolutely. So we’ve worked together for is it 15 years now, Paul?

Yeah, scary, isn’t it? You had hair when we started. You didn’t really. For those watching on YouTube, Ben has no hair whatsoever.

This is a personal choice. People often say when they find out we’ve worked together that long that I’m either good at what I do or that I’ve got some secret information on you. So they don’t know that it’s both at this stage.

Thank you.

But yeah, we worked together in the previous business working with healthcare sector and opticians, veterinary practices and dentists. And then of course we’ve been working together with the MSP Marketing Edge where you do the podcast and all the fun, crazy stuff. And I speak with MSP owners all over the world and find out what they’re looking to do with their business and if we can help them.

Exactly that. In fact, if anything, I have the fun and you do the hard work.

I enjoy it just as much. So it’s all good.

I’m sure you do. Well, I know you do for a fact. And actually you are talking to our existing members as well as new members who are looking to join us because you do all the one-to-one consultations with our members, you do all of our onboarding. So essentially Ben is pretty much the only member of our team who loves being on a Zoom call all day long. I don’t like being on Zooms, I prefer doing stuff like this. And actually it was just you and me if we go back 10 years to when we first started this business. And so you and I have been here right from the beginning.

And that actually leads onto my first question, which is what have you seen change since 2016 to 2026 in terms of how MSPs grow their business? So I don’t mean from a tech point...

A simple automated email sequence is one of the highest return marketing assets that your MSP can build… here’s how to get started. Also this week, how to get your whole team involved in marketing, and how to arrange a party for 3,000 MSPs.

Welcome to Episode 358 of the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green, powered by the MSP Marketing Edge.

The one email sequence every MSP should have running

Most MSPs never use this, which even though it’s an oldie, is still completely valid in 2026. It’s an automated email sequence which warms up a prospect who has joined your CRM. And the beauty of it is that you set it up once and then you forget about it and it’s going to work for you for years and years to come. There are still far too many MSPs who connect with someone on LinkedIn or hand over a business card at a networking event or someone comes and downloads something from their website and that’s it. That person kind of disappears, maybe the MSP remembers them maybe they don’t, and actually they’re never contacted again.

Today, I want to fix that because a simple automated email sequence is one of the highest return marketing assets that your MSP can build. And as I say, once it’s set up, you don’t really have to do anything. Let’s talk about the one email sequence every MSP should have running. So we should start with looking at how people end up on your list in the first place and how if you don’t have a list, you should have a list.

Most MSPs underestimate the opportunity that having an email list presents.

So of course, LinkedIn connections are a massive source of leads because when you connect with a business owner or manager on LinkedIn, then not only do you have a connection on that platform, but you have the ability to then go and harvest other information about them. I’m a big fan of taking your connections on LinkedIn, finding their email address. There’s a number of different ways you can do that… you can either get it off LinkedIn or you can use a plugin like Lusher or something like that, or you can just go and Google it. There are only about seven or eight types of email address, paul@, paul.green@, pgreen@, p.green@, you get the idea, you go and brute force Google search those in speech marks and you will find that email address eventually.

So all those LinkedIn connections, you can go and find their email address and not enough MSPs are gathering email addresses and adding them into a CRM. Are you using a CRM? Do you have a basic one set up? Please go and do that quickly, it’s easy. Use MailerLite or MailChimp or if you’re in The Tech Tribe, you’ve already got one, it’s Growably, which is free as part of you’re the Tech Tribe membership. Go HighLevel is another popular one. Another one is ActiveCampaign. The ultimate one is HubSpot, but you will be paying them in kidneys every month. HubSpot’s really, really expensive. But the point is you can’t rely just on LinkedIn or gathering business cards. You’ve got to have a CRM where you are gathering people’s email addresses and you’ve got permission to email them.

By the way, if you do take all of those email addresses or just business cards or any emails you gather from anywhere, as long as you’re not doing this on mass and not just buying a bunch of data and shoving it in (that’s bad) but if you’re trickling in people you’ve met on LinkedIn or in real life, then what you do is you send them an email as soon as you put their email address in. You tell them what you’ve done, you say, “Hey, we just connected on LinkedIn, I hope you don’t mind but I found your email address and I’ve put it into my database. I’m going to send you one email a week about growing your business with technology. If you really don’t want that, there’s an unsubscribe button at the bottom.” And like 8 out of 10 people will not un...

Case studies are the single most powerful piece of marketing in an MSP’s toolbelt, here’s how to get started. Also this week, is it ever a good idea to rebrand your MSP? And, you can’t grow your MSP until you’ve got solid leadership (even if it’s just you and a tech).

Welcome to Episode 357 of the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green, powered by the MSP Marketing Edge.

How to write a case study that makes prospects salivate

If a prospect said to you right now, “Go on, send me a case study about your MSP,” what would you send them? Do you have just a simple paragraph on your website that’s actually a testimonial wrapped up as a case study that’s just a client logo and a quote saying, “Great service would recommend?” That’s not a case study.

A case study is a proper story that takes a prospect on a journey. When they’re reading it or watching it they’re feeling and thinking, “That’s exactly my situation. This is the IT support company that I should be talking to and hiring.” Well, today I want to show you how to write that second kind, because done properly, a case study is one of the most powerful sales tools your MSP will ever have.

Let’s start by looking at why most MSP case studies are useless. And most MSPs either don’t have case studies at all, or if they do have something it’s so vague and generic it could have been written by anyone about anyone. If yours looks something like this, “We helped a local business to improve their IT infrastructure and reduce downtime”, well, that tells the prospect nothing at all. And the problem you’ve got there is you’ve written that case study from your own perspective. It’s about what you did technically rather than looking at everything from the client’s perspective. And the client cares about the problem they had, how it felt when the solution came in, and what changed, what got better, what the results were.

A case study is not a description of services, and it’s not a boast of how clever you are technically. A good case study tells a story.

Stories only work when they make the person who’s reading it, or watching it if it’s a video, it only works if it makes them feel something. You think about every book that you’ve ever loved, every movie that you left the cinema thinking, “Oh, that was just amazing.” None of those started with a list of features of things they were going to do in the film. They started with a character that you could relate to, and that character was in a situation that you recognised and they’ve got a problem that made you feel something.

The best stories move us emotionally. And do you know what? Case studies work exactly the same way, which is kind of weird when you think about it because it’s only marketing. But when you’re talking to ordinary business owners and managers, even when you’re talking to IT directors for co-managed IT, you’re looking to move them emotionally. The MSP who can emotionally move the prospect is dramatically more likely to win that prospect.

Let’s first of all address a big problem that a lot of MSPs throw up to me, and that is the issue of confidentiality. “But Paul, what if I lay out all of the details about my client and bad actors out there can use those details to attack our client, to pretend to be us?” I get this, I understand it, and I think this is a unique thing within managed services within the channel. It is a real fear, but it is your fear and not your client’s fear. The most common reason that MSPs don’t have proper case studies is that they’re too worried about naming clients publicly and giving details that will be out there. The reality is that that worry almost always belongs to you and not the client. And most happy clients are not just doing case studies with you, they are doing them with lots of other suppliers as well. Most clients are g...

A discovery call is the thing that turns a warm lead into a booked sales meeting – here’s a 6 part format for getting the most from them. Also this week, how to market your MSP during a quiet spell, and the secret to being recommended more by AI.

Welcome to Episode 356 of the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green, powered by the MSP Marketing Edge.

The format for a perfect discovery call

The discovery call is the most underloved, most misunderstood part of the entire sales process for MSPs. Most owners treat it as an opportunity to tell the prospect about their services, but that’s not what it’s really for.

Done properly, a discovery call is the thing that turns a warm lead into booked sales meetings.

And right now I want to give you the exact format for running one that actually works, including the differences between a B2B call and a co-managed IT one. And I’ve broken this down into six easy parts to make it easy for you to understand, follow along, and of course implement.

Part 1: The mindset shift.

When we’re talking about a discovery call, we mean normally a video call and it’s normally the first quality contact with a new prospect. And the goal of the video call, the discovery call is not actually to sell anything. It’s actually to do two things. Number one is to qualify the prospect as someone that you really want to work with, someone that’s worth pursuing. And then secondly is to make them feel as though, “Ooh, this is interesting. These are the guys we should pursue.” So you know that you want to work with them and they are intrigued… they feel heard, they feel as though you could be the right people for them.

And the way that you do that is by zipping your mouth because the prospects should be talking like 80% of the time. You ask questions, but then you shut up and you listen really, really carefully and you just occasionally reflect back what you’ve heard, what they have said. Because the best sales don’t come from talking at someone the best or having the best pitch. They come from actually the best listening. So most MSP owners, they get on a discovery call and start talking about their services and their accreditations and their qualifications and their tech stack. And do you know that the prospect doesn’t really care about any of that stuff.

At the very beginning of the process, which is what this is, they just want to know if you can understand their world and if you can listen to them. And feeling heard is one of the most powerful psychological forces in all of human connection. When someone feels like you genuinely get them and get their situation and you understand their hopes and their fears and their wants and their needs, then you’re going to form some trust. In fact, they’re going to know you, they’re going to like you and they’re going to trust you. And when those three things are in place, they’re much more likely to give you a wad of cash and commit to you for a three-year contract. Beautiful, right?

Part 2: The ask – how long should you request for a discovery call?

This is where B2B and co-managed IT are slightly different. So in B2B, I believe you should ask the business owner for just 15 minutes on a discovery call. Why? Because it sounds like a tiny, tiny commitment. Most people are going to say yes to 15 minutes, whereas actually if you ask them for 30, that feels like a bigger chunk and certainly you don’t ask for an hour. So 15 minutes is absolutely perfect. Now in co-managed IT, you do ask for 30 minutes and that’s because IT directors, even though they’re super busy, super overstretched, they also have more complex situations to explain. And 15 minutes isn’t enough to have a peer-to-peer conversation about the real frustrations in their life. Because with business owners, it’s them as a normal perso...

If your MSP is looking for a vertical that ticks almost every box, then financial services might be the one… here’s why. Also this week, the “trust transfer” trick of borrowing credibility from people prospects already trust, and my guest built an MSP to $143m exit and understands why MSP founders get stuck.

Welcome to Episode 355 of the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green, powered by the MSP Marketing Edge.

Deep dive into winning financial services clients

If you’re looking for a vertical that ticks almost every box – recurring revenue, long-term loyalty, genuine willingness to pay for good IT, and a compliance pressure that never goes away – then financial services might be the one.

Right now, I want to do a deep dive into winning wealth managers, independent financial advisors, mortgage brokers, and insurance brokers as clients for your MSP, because this is a sector that is genuinely crying out for MSPs who understand their world. Let me show you how to become one of them.

Let’s break this down into six easy parts…

1. Why is this vertical so attractive?

Well it’s pretty simple really, it’s very stable, very profitable, long-term businesses. These kind of financial services clients don’t tend to disappear overnight, and they also have a very high dependency on technology. You think about it, everything they do involves data, communications and client records. So they are genuinely willing to pay for high quality IT because for them, the cost of getting it wrong is huge, just huge. It isn’t just that the technology is needed by them, it is absolutely mission critical. That ticks a big box for us.

But also, and this is huge as well, compliance pressure. For these people, we have no idea what the compliance pressure must be like for them because they have to operate under an increasingly complex and burdensome set of rules. There’s always new rules coming in. It’s very rare that someone comes in and says, “Let’s have fewer rules for financial services.” That just doesn’t happen. So the norm for them is all this compliance. And of course, a lot of the technology is there to make sure that they stay compliant. I’ve been digging around for some stats and I found that 96% of financial firms now allocate more than 5% of their total spending budget to IT and cyber security, and that’s going up. They take technology really, really seriously. And that means that once you’re in, you’re in. Because as we know, for an ordinary B2B company, switching an IT provider is highly disruptive for them. And for a regulated company, that’s just too much risk. You’ve got to be really bad to lose a financial services client or someone that’s related to that. So retention is very, very high in this sector.

On top of this, and this just keeps getting better and better, these people talk to each other. The IFAs, the mortgage brokers, the insurance brokers, they tend to operate in very tight networks, either because they’re all part of the same actual selling network or buying network or something like that, or just because they tend to hang out with each other. They meet each other at training and compliance sessions and stuff like that. So they are talking about the suppliers that they use. Once you are in with one and you do a good job, the good news is you’re likely to pick up other clients as well.

1. The psychology of the buyer.

For these people that we want to reach, it’s almost always that the decision maker is the owner or the senior partner. And of course, there are influencers as well. In most B2B buying decisions, you’ve got a decision maker and an influencer. So you might have the CEO is the actual decision maker, but the operations manager might be an influencer. The operations manager will pretty much tell them who to p...

For MSP’s, winning back past clients is actually one of the easiest and cheapest opportunities… are you overlooking this? Also this week, the horrendous truth of how MSPs are losing sales opportunities and annoying existing clients on the phone, and the MSP who thinks you should sell Google Workspace, not Microsoft.

Welcome to Episode 354 of the MSP Marketing Podcast with me, Paul Green, powered by the MSP Marketing Edge.

How to win back a client who dared to leave you for another MSP

I want to talk about a type of prospect that almost no MSP ever follows up with.

The prospect is a client who left you in the past.

Let me make the case right now for why winning back these kind of people is actually one of the easiest, cheapest, and maybe even most overlooked opportunities in your entire marketing.

Winning back a client who left you is up to five times more cost-effective than winning a brand new client.

If you think about it, they already know your name, your reputation, they know roughly what working with you is like, even if you’ve changed in the year since they left. And yet research consistently shows that most B2B businesses do not do this. Almost three quarters of companies have no win-back process at all. They lose a client and that’s the end of the story. So why does this happen? And specifically, why does it happen with MSPs?

I wonder, is it down to pride and discomfort? Because I don’t know about you, but I know for me, it feels a little bit awkward to go back to someone who chose a competitor over you. It’s one thing if you pitch to someone and they choose a competitor in the first place, but if you’ve worked with someone for a couple of years and then they leave you for a competitor, that’s where it almost feels slightly personal, doesn’t it? And it can feel a lot more awkward. It almost feels like you’re admitting weakness or you’re chasing them and you don’t want to be. I guess if you put it in ex-boyfriend/ex-girlfriend terms, you don’t want to be the ex that reaches out because that’s uncomfortable.

But they’re not an ex-boyfriend or an ex-girlfriend, they’re an ex-client, and that discomfort is costing you easy revenue that’s sat there to be collected. Let’s be clear about the kind of clients we’re talking about here… We’re not talking about the ones that have been acquired by another business, that business is gone. We’re not talking about the ones that have gone bust, obviously that business is gone as well. We’re talking about if they have switched from you to another MSP. So let’s talk this through and all the aspects of it.

Let’s deal with timing first, this matters more than you would think. If you reach out too soon, you are the needy ex and of course they’re still in the honeymoon period with their new provider. But if you reach out too late, you’ve completely missed the window where they realise that the grass wasn’t greener on the other side. Because that’s why someone switches, isn’t it? They leave you for another MSP thinking that with the other MSP the grass is going to be greener. And there does come a point where they realise that actually, some of the things are going to be different with that other MSP, but some things will be worse, some things will be better because every MSP operates and delivers in quite a different way.

We did a little bit of research on this and the research broadly supports a timing window somewhere between two to six months after they leave. And my gut feel would be towards the back of that. So if they leave you in January, you should be reaching out in June… April, May, June kind of time. And most attempts to win back a client happen far too early. They happen at the point that someone cancels or the point that the client says they’re not going to sign another contract. That’s the wo...