This week Nicola and Di chat about love, lust, dating disasters, red flags and the secrets to making romance actually work, with the one and only Dr. Lurve. She's a psychologist and relationship expert who has dedicated her career to helping people understand what makes us tick when it comes to love, and she brought so much wisdom (and so many laughs) to the studio.

In this episode Dr. Lurve discusses how you don't need to be "fully healed" before you find love. In fact, she says relationships are more like yoga than a finish line, a practice you never fully master. She breaks down the difference between chemistry and intimacy, why love bombing feels so addictive, and how understanding your partner's love language is the map to actually speaking to their heart.

We talk all about the world of dating apps, the good, the bad and the ugly, and Dr. Lurve shares a simple tip for getting things off the screen and into real life within 21 days. She also shares why baggage isn't a red flag but a window into character, how to spot the addictive push-pull "crumbing" cycle, and why staying with an avoidant partner can quietly wear you down over time.

Dr. Lurve reminds us that if you’re starting over after a breakup or a divorce, you’re actually in a position of power rather than weakness. You've got the data, the wisdom and the freedom to write a new chapter. We talk about dating later in life, the importance of matching values over chemistry, how to have hard conversations without ambushing your partner, and why learning to do conflict well might be the real secret to a relationship's longevity.

We had such a great time chatting with Dr. Lurve, it was like having another girlfriend with us in the studio. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did!

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This week Nicola and Di chat with the super talented Kathryn Eisman. Kathryn has already had a remarkable career and achieved so much at such a young age. She’s written 2 best-selling books, been nominated for multiple Emmy awards as a TV journalist, interviewed some of the biggest celebrities for E! News, created and hosted the TV series Undressed, as well as created and built a hugely successful fashion label, High Heel Jungle. Not only that, she’s also a mum of 2 beautiful daughters.

In this episode we chat to Kathryn about her incredible career and how at the age of 21, she moved to New York to promote a book she’d written, and ended up becoming the youngest on-air reporter in NBC history. After many successful years with NBC, Kathryn made the move to LA, where she was the head of fashion and lifestyle coverage for E! News and got to interview some of the world’s biggest celebrities. We get to hear the stories of her most memorable interviews, which you’ll want to tune in for!

We also talk to Kathryn about the psychology of style. Kathryn has written 2 bestselling books, How to Tell a Man By His Shoes and How to Tell a Woman By Her Handbag, as well as produced the TV series Undressed, to help us understand how the way a person dresses can tell you something about them. It’s so fascinating to think of style in this way and we loved hearing Kathryn’s stories of what your clothes reveal about you.

Kathryn chats to us about her hosiery label High Heel Jungle, what inspired her to create the business and how amazing it’s been to have her label worn by the Kardashians, Kylie Jenner, Ariana Grande, and Rihanna, to name just a few. She shares what it’s been like to balance her career with motherhood, and the importance of going after your dreams.

We absolutely loved chatting to Kathryn and had so many laughs in the studio with her. Her story is super inspiring and we love the way Kathryn is all about supporting other women and celebrating their successes. We hope you love this episode as much as we did.

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