Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.

This week I'm joined by husband and wife team Rico Lopez and BriAnn Shipley, the voices on the Thin Line Rock Station and 8158 podcasts, among others. Together they share how they built a platform rooted in helping first responders while also advocating for something people tend to overlook - second chances.

Rico opens up about his journey as a former inmate and his passion for mentoring incarcerated individuals in life skills to help prevent recidivism. His perspective is rare and deeply needed - he believes support doesn't have to choose sides.

We talk about mental health, redemption, resilience, and what it means to be a bridge between first responders and those working to rebuild their lives. This conversation challenges the "us versus them" mentality and reminds us that healing, accountability, and support can coexist - on both sides of the line.

Connect with Rico and BriAnn:

https://www.tiktok.com/@8158podcast

https://www.instagram.com/8158podcast

https://www.thethinlinerockstation.com/our-djs

https://www.slightlyunhingedradio.com/

https://www.instagram.com/slightlyunhingedmedianetwork/

Connect with me:

https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepod

https://www.facebook.com/outsidethelinepodcast

Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.

Trigger warning: sexual abuse, suicide (attempt).

This week I'm joined by Mark DiBona aka "The Rockstar of Mental Health." Mark started as a cop in Boston and retired as a Sgt in Seminole County, Florida.

Mark gets vulnerable about childhood trauma, why he's known as "The Rock Star of Mental Health", and how his passion for helping cops led him to start a non-profit foundation, Protecting the Guardian.

Connect with Mark:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-dibona-the-rock-star-of-mental-health

https://protectingtheguardian.com/

Connect with me:

https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepod

https://www.facebook.com/outsidethelinepodcast

Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.

This week I'm joined by Peter Kandinov - a retired NYPD Detective and founder for the NYPD Financial Club as well as the NYPD's Financial Wellness classes.

Peter talks about coming to this country and starting from humble beginnings, what led him to created financial wellness seminars, and how financial wellness can carry as much stigma as mental health does.

Connect with Peter:

Whether you're interested in bringing Peter in as a speaker to your department or you want a one-on-one consultation, email outsidethelinepodcast@gmail.com.

Connect with me:

https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepod/

https://www.facebook.com/outsidethelinepodcast

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dina-campbell/

Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.

This week I'm joined by Stan Partlow - retired Commander of the City of Columbus, Ohio Police Department, board member of First Responders Bridge, and author of the book Leading Relentlessly.

Stan talks about the legacy of service that runs in his family - starting with his father, then himself, and now his daughter - why he chose his family over a potential career path, and how the lessons he learned throughout his career led him to write his book.

Connect with Stan:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/stan-partlow-cpp

https://a.co/d/064fQLJS

https://firstrespondersbridge.org/

Connect with me:

https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepod

https://www.facebook.com/outsidethelinepodcast

Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.

In this week's bonus episode, I talk about my journey back to my faith.

For a long time, I thought I had gone too far. Been too angry, too distant, too far removed from the little girl who once believed without hesitation.

I stopped going to Church. Stopped praying. Stopped trying. Somewhere along the way, I convinced myself God probably gave up on me the way I gave up on Him.

Fifteen years later, terrified, I walked into a confessional and heard two words that changed everything, "Welcome home."

This week's bonus episode is the most personal one I've recorded yet - about losing my faith, rediscovering it, and realizing I was never actually walking alone.

If you've ever felt too far gone...this one's for you too.

Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.

This week I'm joined by Jackie MacIsaac - a Senior Medical Examiner for a local jurisdiction.

Jackie talks about her first day as an autopsy assistant, how she stays anchored to the real world, and life as a wife, mother, and last responder.

Connect with Dina:

https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepod

https://www.facebook.com/outsidethelinepodcast

Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops learning to stay anchored to the real world.

This week I'm joined by Reuben Ramirez - retired Assistant Chief of Dallas PD and founder of the Checkpoints program.

Reuben talks about how his faith keeps him anchored to the real world and influences his approach to leadership, the lessons he learned by being vulnerable about his own struggles, and how he turned those lessons into a blueprint for police departments all around the country.

Connect with Reueben:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/reuben-g-ramirez-6378b184/

Learn about Checkpoints:

https://www.startcheckpoints.com/

https://www.startcheckpoints.com/book

Connect with Dina:

https://www.instagram.com/outsidethelinepod

https://www.facebook.com/outsidethelinepodcast

Welcome to Outside the Line - the podcast for cops who are learning to stay anchored to the real world.

This week, I'm joined by John Luedke - author, speaker, and trader. John is the author of Big Dump - the story of grit and resilience told through his battle with multiple forms of addiction.

John struggled with addiction and compulsive behavior from a very young age. Food and video games were the initial coping mechanisms. By the time he was eight he was introduced to pornography and as he got older, he turned to alcohol and illicit drugs.

John's incredible story of grit, hope, resilience, and his continued sobriety is powerful and raw. You won't want to miss it!

Trigger warning: drug and substance abuse, addiction.

Read John's book:

https://a.co/d/07IZywDH

Connect with John:

https://www.instagram.com/johnny.luedke/