Brendan Curry has spent 24 years at W.W. Norton—the largest and oldest employee-owned publishing company. Norton is renowned for nonfiction and higher education publishing. In this episode, we discuss the rise and recent challenges of serious nonfiction, exploring how political upheaval, cultural fatigue, and fragmented digital media environments have reshaped readers’ engagement with big-idea books.

Miwa Messer is the executive producer and host of Barnes & Noble’s beloved podcast “Poured Over,” which has released over 650 episodes in the last 5 years. Our conversation covers her journey in publisher publicity and brick and mortar bookselling, and the significant changes in book format and book discovery along the way—including events, podcasting, social media, and more.

Jon Anderson has been President and Publisher of Simon & Schuster Children’s since 2009, after a career in both publishing and bookselling that began at age 16 at a B. Dalton mall store in South Dakota. His journey through Barnes & Noble, Penguin, and Perseus to his current position is one marked by creativity, humor, and iconic books and brands, from Mad Libs to Nancy Drew.

Terry Finley is the President and CEO of Books-a-Million, a chain of over 200 bookstores in 30 states. In this episode he describes the dramatic changes in book retailing since the late 1970s, when department stores and small mall stores were major booksellers, through the superstore era and to today’s marketplace with online retailers and social media influencers.

In a 50-year publishing career, Michael Jacobs has been at the center of a number of explosive worldwide publishing phenomena, including Harry Potter and Diary of a Wimpy Kid. He talks about the lessons of blockbuster publishing, the joys of poetry, finishing his college career at 67, his new venture, Galpón Press, and its first book, The Woodcutter's Christmas.

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Dominique Raccah founded Sourcebooks in Chicago in 1987 and has turned it into the fastest growing, and now the largest, independent book publisher in the United States. This episode covers how she built an innovative company and a culture that seems to uniquely balance supporting authors, understanding readers, and using data to make decisions.

A writer and an editor join us to discuss a new book set in the world of publishing. Hot Desk — the debut novel from Laura Dickerman (with input from her editor brother Colin) — is a genre-spanning story. It is part rom-com, part publishing satire and part upscale book club fiction. The book spans a shared post-covid desk and two distinct eras in the book business from the heyday of the 80’s to the current industry as two sparring colleagues chase the same coveted assignment. Both the book and our episode give a peek behind the curtain of publishing.

Molly Stern is a longtime editor and publisher, formerly at Penguin Random House, where she worked on countless award-winners and bestsellers including Gone Girl by Gillian Flynn, Year of Wonders by Geraldine Brooks, and Becoming by Michelle Obama. Molly is now the founder and CEO of Zando, an innovative startup that partners with well-known figures like Sarah Jessica Parker and John Legend to launch new imprints, publish books, and connect them to audiences of readers.

(For full transparency: Open Book host David Steinberger is a board member of Zando.)