Shannon Arner and her husband Jerry had a successful pet care business — and it was killing them. In 2017, Shannon found herself sitting in the surf on the coast of North Carolina, mentally and physically done. In the weeks that followed, they sold the business, sold the house, sold most of their stuff, and moved into a 500 square foot tiny home on the coast. People thought they'd lost their minds. What they'd actually found was their lives.

Shannon is the co-founder of Arner Adventures, a blog and community dedicated to helping others simplify, downsize, and design a life that actually fits them. She joins Angie to talk about the real face of burnout, what the healing period after a major life reset actually looks like, how minimalism reduces mental clutter (not just physical), and how to define adventure on your own terms — even if that just means trying a new restaurant.

In this episode:

• What burnout actually looks like when you've hit the wall
• How Shannon and Jerry sold everything in 30 days and didn't have a plan
• The healing period: sunshine, rainbows, and getting to know each other again
• Minimalism as a mental health tool — physical clutter and mental clutter are connected
• Defining adventure for yourself (it doesn't require hang gliding)
• Done is better than perfect — and why waiting for the perfect moment keeps you stuck
• The 30-day declutter challenge at arneradventures.com
• Book recommendation: Blue Mind by Wallace J. Nichols

Connect with Shannon:
Website + free resources: arneradventures.com
Also listen: Angie's episode on the Arner Adventures podcast

In this episode of No More Mondays, Angie Callen welcomes Justin Schenck, an entrepreneur, podcast host, and speaker who shares candid insights about the mental fortitude required to build a sustainable business. They dive into the realities of rock bottom moments, how investing in yourself can be a turning point, and why grounding your work in purpose is essential for long-term growth. If you've ever struggled with setbacks or the roller coaster of entrepreneurship, this conversation offers refreshing, authentic perspectives.

In this episode, we explore:
- Facing and embracing rock bottom as a catalyst for growth
- The importance of investing in yourself before the money comes
- Building authentic, long-term relationships over transactional ones
- Managing the highs and lows without losing focus
- Defining your why beyond just financial goals
- How setbacks can become breakthroughs
- The role of community and live events in business growth
- Setting daily habits to nurture body, mind, and relationships
- Designing your life first, then aligning your business to support it
- Recognizing when ego blocks entrepreneurial progress

This episode reminds us that modern work and leadership are about resilience, values, and connection. It reveals how having a clear purpose and a supportive community helps leaders navigate uncertainty and build businesses that matter.

Justin Schenck is an entrepreneur and the host of the Growth Now Movement podcast. He is known for his no-nonsense approach and deep commitment to helping others turn their struggles into impactful growth. Justin's work centers on mindset, purposeful leadership, and authentic connection. You can learn more about Justin and his upcoming Growth Now Summit Live event at growthnowsummit.com.

At its core, this episode reinforces a vital truth: humans still matter. By investing in ourselves and each other, we create a world where business and purpose coexist authentically.

Career crossroads don't discriminate by age or seniority—even executives at Google face them. Eric Nehrlich's journey from a physics student to a Google executive, and eventually to executive coaching, is a compelling story of burnout, choice, and reclaiming personal agency.

In this episode, we explore:
- The unexpected career pivots from physics grad school to tech startups
- The financial and leadership pressures during Google's Great Recession era
- Recognizing burnout and the physical toll of overwork
- Challenging traditional career narratives and societal expectations
- The power and consequences of owning your choices
- The process of thoughtfully building a coaching business alongside a corporate career
- Moving from opportunity-driven to intention-driven career decisions
- The role of accountability and one small step experiments in change
- The necessity of focus and saying no to good things to do great work
- Balancing personal values, family, and professional ambitions

This conversation underscores the importance of adapting with self-awareness and intention in the evolving landscape of work and leadership.

Eric Nehrlich is an executive coach, author of "You Have a Choice: Beyond Hard Work to Meaningful Impact," and a former Chief of Staff at Google. His coaching practice helps leaders cut through complexity and find clarity to navigate career and life challenges.

At No More Mondays, we believe humans still matter—even in high tech, high stakes environments. Eric's story reminds us that meaningful impact comes from values-driven choices and embracing change with courage.