On this episode of MSR, Adam and Paul unpack the viral moment that had everybody talking.

During a powerful roundtable discussion titled “Black Men Trust Black Women”, hosted by SisterSong Women of Color and The Conscious Lee, a heated exchange between Clifton Powell and Joseph Irvin quickly went viral. What started as a reflection on Powell’s personal journey in relationships with Black women turned into a tense debate that sparked conversations across social media.

But what was really happening in that moment?

Adam and Paul break down:

The panel’s core message about trust between Black men and Black women

The clash over masculinity and accountability

Why the argument resonated (and divided) so many people

And what this says about how we communicate in public spaces

Was it a necessary confrontation? A misunderstanding? Or a deeper reflection of unresolved tension within the community?

This episode goes beyond the clip and gets into the bigger picture — masculinity, vulnerability, ego, and whether we’re truly listening to one another.

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00:00
Introduction and Show Overview
02:54
Discussion on Clifton Powell's Panel
04:43
Insights on Panel Dynamics and Diversity
07:31
Critique of Panel Structure and Focus
10:20
Exploring the Challenges of Mixed Conversations
13:07
Concluding Thoughts on the Panel's Effectiveness
17:08
The Dynamics of Male Participation in Conversations
19:56
Understanding Patriarchy and Its Impact
23:25
The Need for Authentic Male Conversations
27:59
Exploring the Role of Therapy in Male Lives
31:58
The Importance of Nuanced Discussions
36:44
Building Community Among Black Men
43:50
Challenging Assumptions about Black Identity
46:42
The Role of Women in Conversations about Patriarchy
48:46
Reflections on the All-Star Game
58:30
Debating the Impact of Lil Wayne's Lyrics

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