In this episode of Nancy & Nicole: Real Life Real Talk, we explore the tension between being nice and being honest — and why so many of us (especially women) default to people-pleasing even when it costs us clarity, results, and self-trust.

We unpack the stories many of us learned early, like “nice is the price of inclusion,” and how those beliefs show up in our work, friendships, and high-stakes conversations. Usingreal-life examples from real estate — pricing strategy, prepping a home, and navigating client boundaries — we talk about why being “nice” can sometimes be the least helpful option, and how honest conversations (when delivered well)are often the kindest thing we can offer.

The deeper shift we explore: honesty isn’t just about outcomes or relationships. It’s about who you want to be in the world — and whether you can put your head on the pillow at night knowing you showed up in alignment.

We all carry stories about what it takes to want more in life—more joy, more connection, more meaning.

In this episode, Nancy and Nicole explore the deeply ingrained beliefs around effort, sacrifice, and worthiness, and question whether wanting more truly requires doing more.

Along the way, they unpack the subtle but powerful shift from hoping something will work out to trusting yourself enough to receive it.

This is a reflective, real-time conversation about unlearning old assumptions, noticing where ease is already present, and allowing a different way forward to emerge.

This week’s planned episode didn’t feel right to release.

So I recorded a solo reflection on collective grief, exhaustion, and how we keep showing up — for ourselves and for one another — when the world feels heavy.

One breath at a time.

Are you pushing because it’s time to push—or because you think you’re supposed to?

In this episode, Nancy and Nicole explore the difference between force and flow—in work, relationships, money, health, and even the seasons of our lives. Using everything from puzzle pieces to travel calendars to Starbucks coffee decisions, they unpack how alignment, values, and intuition often matter more than effort.

This is a real conversation about recognizing when something fits… and having the courage to stop forcing what doesn’t.

Perfectionism is sneaky. Sometimes it looks like integrityand high standards. Other times, it looks like procrastination, over-editing, people-pleasing, or avoiding hard conversations altogether.

In this episode, Nancy and Nicole explore where perfectionism comes from, how it shows up differently in the doing parts of life versus the being parts, and why “done” often beats “perfect.”

They talk about creativity, relationships, conflict avoidance, group support, and even a surprisingly revealing go-kart racing experience.

If you’ve ever:

• Talked yourself out of sharing something because it wasn't "ready"
• Been harder on yourself than you'd ever be on someone else
• Believed getting it just right might protect you from discomfort or disappointment

... this conversation is for you!

Goals can motivate—or completely shut us down. In thisepisode, Nancy and Nicole unpack their complicated relationship with goals and share a more human, flexible way to think about direction, growth, and progress.

When your battery hits 1%, everything feels harder — the decisions, the expectations, the people you love, even the basics.

In this episode, Nancy and Nicole unpack what real self-care looks like in a full, busy life.

This isn’t spa days and bubble baths. It’s the everyday practices that help you notice your limits, honor your capacity, and make small shifts that restore your energy.

We talk about why so many women feel depleted, the stories we tell ourselves about rest, how to set better boundaries, and the micro-moments that make a meaningful difference.

If you’re feeling stretched thin or overwhelmed, this conversation will help you reconnect, recalibrate,and give yourself the care you actually need.

In this episode, Nancy and Nicole pull back the curtain on how they really approach business planning — and why traditional “binder-based” planning has never worked for them.
If thick planners, spreadsheets, and color-coded tabs make you want to change careers, you’re in good company.

And if you're NOT an entrepreneur or in real estate, there are some gold nuggets of insight for you, too!

They unpack:

Why rigid business plans often shut people down

How personality, neurodivergence, and values shape the waywe plan

The role of energy, alignment, and consistency

Why “one-size-fits-all” planning leaves so many agentsfeeling like failures

What they actually do to stay grounded, intentional, and successful

Whether you’re Team Binder or Team“I lost the binder,” this episode will help you create a business plan that actually fits your life.

✨ Connect with Us

Instagram:• Nancy — @nancy.chapin.seattle• Nicole — @nicolemangina

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Websites:• Nancy — https://www.nancychapinspeaks.com• Nicole — https://successperspective.com

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