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Dr. David M. Rosch is an associate professor in agricultural leadership, education, and communications at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign, where he teaches leadership theory and studies the impact of leadership development on young people. He has been repeatedly recognized for teaching excellence and received his college’s Teaching Excellence Award. Dave serves as editor of the Journal of Campus Activities Practice and Scholarship and has held numerous leadership roles within the International Leadership Association and related organizations. He has authored more than 50 scholarly works and earned his PhD in higher education from Syracuse University.

Dr. Daniel M. Jenkins is a professor of leadership and organizational studies at the University of Southern Maine, where he teaches leadership, organizational theory, and research methods. He is co-author of The Role of Leadership Educators: Transforming Learning and has published more than 50 peer-reviewed works on leadership education and development. An award-winning international speaker and facilitator, Dan has engaged thousands on topics including leadership pedagogy, followership, and artificial intelligence. He serves in multiple leadership roles within the International Leadership Association and related professional organizations, and earned his doctorate from the University of South Florida.

A Few Quotes From This Episode

• “There’s no stable track in leader development because people are complex.”
• “We don’t need to talk about whether leadership matters. We need to understand how.”
• “Instructional strategies are the vehicle through which we facilitate leadership learning.”
• “Know why you are selecting the tools you are using.”

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

• Book: Moving the Needle: What We Know (and Don’t Know) About Developing Leaders by Rosch, Allen, and Jenkins

About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

• The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

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• The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.

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