Tenicka Boyd was 21 years old and a new mother when she took a job working for President Obama. Nineteen years later, her daughter is a college junior living in Japan, Tenicka is a fashion voice, former ACLU staffer, and one of the most self-possessed women I've had on the couch. She is also refreshingly honest about the parts of her story most women tuck away.

In this episode, we get into the conversation Tenicka is best known for online—the honest one about money and motherhood. What it means to enter motherhood with resources, and what it costs when you don't. Why "living for your kids" is not the compliment we've been told it is. Why she believes we're not owed motherhood, and what it looks like to choose it with your eyes wide open.

From there we get into her reflection on early motherhood and the loneliness of being out of sync with the girlfriends who are now having their first child, the leap from a full-time career in politics to content creation—when she eclipsed her ACLU salary in one quarter—and why she refuses to work a sixty-hour week for herself. We talk about the uniformity that's crept into creator culture, the political history of fashion, and why she wants us to expand the definition of luxury beyond European heritage houses. She names the African, Caribbean, and diaspora designers currently defining her closet—from Hertunba to FeNoel to Tongoro to Desiree Iyama.

And then we get into decadence as refusal. Refusal of shrinking, of quiet luxury culture, of the mad dash to 40. Refusal of the small life the world has convinced women to accept.

This is a conversation about what it looks like to give yourself permission to live a life your ancestors couldn't have imagined for you.

Her affirmation this week: "I am my great, great-grandmother's wildest dream." Cheers to that.

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