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This week I'm sitting down with Savannah Mackie, and I have to be honest, when I first thought about having her on, she was one of those people I might have just assumed had it all together. Varsity volleyball, competitive dancer, president of multiple clubs, everybody's friend. You know the type. But what Savannah shares in this episode is a reminder that the highlight reel never tells the whole story.

Behind all of it, she was dealing with a relationship that turned abusive, carrying things she didn't know how to say out loud, and spiraling into some of the darkest moments of her life. It was a youth pastor who met her right in the middle of that mess. And that one encounter became the reason she spent the next 11 years pouring into teenagers herself.

We talk about what it actually looks like to be a safe person for a kid who has no safe place. We get into the hard stuff, what to do when someone opens up about self-harm, how to know when something is beyond you, and why humility might be the most underrated leadership quality there is. We also talk about the season Savannah is walking into right now, stepping back from youth ministry after over a decade, and trusting that the passion stays even when the assignment changes.

And somewhere in the middle of all of it, we end up talking about parenting, identity, the fruit of the spirit, and why the difference between try and triumph is just a little umph. 😂

Galatians 5:22-23 is Savannah's anchor verse, the first one she ever memorized, and the way she unpacks it is so good. It is not a tidy little checklist. It is a daily heart check, and she treats it like one.

If you have ever felt called to speak life into someone else while quietly wondering if you are enough for that assignment, I think this episode is going to meet you right where you are. You don't have to have it all together. God made you on purpose and for a purpose, and that purpose can shift and still be holy.

I'm so glad you're here. 🙏

Scriptures mentioned in this episode:

Galatians 5:22-23 | James 1:2-4 | Psalm 119:105

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