Mental Health at Work: How Line Managers Can Spot the Signs and Start the Conversation
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Mental Health at Work: How Line Managers Can Spot the Signs and Start the Conversation
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One in six people in the workplace will have a diagnosable mental health condition at any given time. Yet the biggest barrier to getting help is not the availability of support. It is silence. In this episode, Anna is joined by Yohan Macdonald, founder of Great Minds Training, who has been specialising in mental health, wellbeing, diversity and inclusion since 2015, delivering programmes for organisations including the NHS, IBM and the FA.
Yohan speaks from lived experience. He struggled with anxiety and depression for close to a decade before finding his purpose in workplace wellbeing, and that personal understanding shapes everything he teaches. He explains why stigma remains stubbornly persistent, why managers often talk themselves out of having difficult conversations, and why the wrong thing to say is nothing at all.
A highlight of this episode is Yohan's SAFE conversation framework, a practical four-step approach designed to help managers start mental health conversations with confidence. It covers how to set up the conversation in the right environment, ask open and relevant questions, focus on listening beyond just words, and respond with genuine empathy.
Anna and Yohan also address one of the most common objections managers raise: the idea that mental health has become the new bad back. Yohan's response reframes where the real risk to organisations actually lies, and makes a compelling case for why early intervention matters far more than scepticism.
This is part one of a three-part conversation. Part two looks at what organisations can do to shift from a reactive to a proactive culture around mental health and wellbeing.
For any of the resources mentioned please follow the link https://info.greatminds.training/manager-podcast-resources
Email Yohan for more information on yohan@greatminds.training.
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