In this episode of Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast, hosts Hal Marcus and Memme Onwudiwe sit down with Donovan Bell, Senior Director and Head of Global Operations for Corporate Affairs, Policy, Integrity, Trade, and Legal at Intel, to discuss how Intel’s legal operations team is navigating organizational change and AI adoption simultaneously.

What You'll Learn:

• Why agentic AI requires a decision architecture before deployment
• How to foster healthy skepticism in AI adoption
• The four essential qualities to hire for in legal ops talent
• How to balance aggressive AI adoption with human psychology
• Why orchestration drives meaningful transformation
• How to apply agile frameworks to legal ops innovation
• Why contract lifecycle management becomes your competitive intelligence engine

About the Guest:

Donovan Bell is Senior Director and Head of Global Operations for Corporate Affairs, Policy, Integrity, Trade, and Legal at Intel, bringing over 15 years of experience in technology-driven organizational transformation. With a background spanning Microsoft, Walmart, and other Fortune 500 companies, Donovan specializes in orchestrating intelligence across legal operations, AI adoption, and people-centric change management. He also serves on the Board of the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC) and co-chairs the Inclusion and Social Impact Council, while also teaching as an adjunct professor and program director in project management.

• Donovan Bell on LinkedIn
• Intel Website
• Hal Marcus on LinkedIn: Hal Marcus
• Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn: Memme Onwudiwe

Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.

What if your contracts could become a strategic asset instead of a bottleneck? In this episode of Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast, hosts Hal Marcus and Memme Onwudiwe sit down with Anthony Tacker, Director of Procurement and Risk at FlexGen, to explore how purpose-built legal AI is transforming contract management, accelerating deal cycles, and enabling smarter risk mitigation.

What You'll Learn:

• How to reduce contract analysis time from days to hours using purpose-built AI
• The key differences between generalized AI models and specialized legal AI and why it matters for risk and compliance
• Proven strategies for embedding tariff protections and adapting to shifting government policies
• How to structure an effective procurement-legal partnership for faster, more accurate outcomes
• Methods to identify and mitigate multi-party contract risks across large contract portfolios
• Why AI is enabling a shift from hourly billing to value-based pricing models in legal and procurement services

About the Guest:

Anthony Tacker is the Director of Procurement and Risk at FlexGen and an accomplished project management executive and business operations leader. With extensive experience managing complex, multi-million-dollar capital projects and service contracts, Anthony has built a reputation for driving operational excellence and delivering measurable business results.

He has successfully led global teams and negotiated high-value, multi-year contracts across North America, Aruba, the Netherlands, and Venezuela, building strong relationships with top-tier heavy industry clients. Known for turning around underperforming operations, Anthony combines strategic vision with hands-on leadership to improve performance, mitigate risk, and accelerate growth.

Episode Resources

• Anthony Tacker on LinkedIn
• FlexGen Website
• Workday Contract Management: Website
• Hal Marcus on LinkedIn: Hal Marcus
• Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn: Memme Onwudiwe

Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.

• How to balance centralized data governance with democratized AI innovation
• Why API and Model Context Protocol (MCP) integration is now non-negotiable
• The "Start Simple, Impact-Driven" framework for AI implementation
• How to position Legal Ops as a strategic thought partner, not a delivery function
• Why contract data is a multi-stakeholder goldmine
• The critical importance of finding internal champions and managing tech debt

• Olivier Plummer on LinkedIn: Olivier Plummer
• Coinbase Website
• Workday Contract Management: Website
• Hal Marcus on LinkedIn: Hal Marcus
• Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn: Memme Onwudiwe

Nothing is stopping your legal team from functioning like a high-performing business unit - except a lack of understanding and clarity on the real potential of AI. In this episode of Meeting of the Minds - The Legal AI Podcast, hosts Hal Marcus and Memme Onwudiwe sit down with Kelly McCord, Founder and Principal Consultant at SimpliPhi Management LLC and former head of legal operations at HSBC, to explore how to leverage AI and automation to transform legal workflows.

What You'll Learn:

• How to cross-train multiple LLMs simultaneously to compound results
• Why legal ops professionals need baseline AI literacy, not deep technical expertise
• The practical framework for embedding legal earlier in business decisions
• How to build AI agents with guardrails that automate routine work while preserving human control
• The skill-building path to AI competency in legal operations
• How to reduce contract negotiation cycles from weeks to hours using agent-to-agent negotiations

About the Guest:

Kelly McCord is the Founder and Principal Consultant at SimpliPhi Management LLC, a legal operations consulting firm. With over 20 years of experience spanning engineering, business process consulting, financial services, and legal operations (including her role as Head of Legal Operations at HSBC), Kelly has become a pioneering voice in legal technology and AI implementation. Her work helping corporate legal teams integrate cutting-edge AI tools while maintaining quality human oversight makes her a leading voice for legal operations professionals seeking to modernize their functions and demonstrate clear value to the broader organization.

Episode Resources

• Kelly McCord on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-m-mccord/
• SimpliPhi Website: https://simpliphillc.com/
• Workday Contract Management: https://www.workday.com/en-us/products/contract-management/overview.html
• Hal Marcus on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/halmarcus/
• Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/memmeonwudiwe/

Theme music: "Load" Copyright © 1996 by Hal Marcus.

• How to articulate what you actually want an AI agent to do before building or buying one
• Why simplifying processes before automating them is non-negotiable
• The difference between what legal leaders think happens vs. what actually happens operationally
• How to use AI as an intelligence tool to audit your own legal operations
• Why CLMs aren't going away and how they’re evolving
• How to shift from replacing lawyers to leveling up their work

• Alex Herrity on LinkedIn: Alex Herrity
• Workday Contract Management: Website
• Hal Marcus on LinkedIn: Hal Marcus
• Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn: Memme Onwudiwe

• The Three Pillars of Modern Legal: How Workday organizes its legal team around driving growth, protecting the brand, and earning stakeholder trust.
• Agentic AI & The "Front Door": Why AI agents are becoming the new interface for legal departments to manage high-volume routine inquiries.
• The End of the Contract Silo: How moving contract data into systems like Salesforce transforms "file cabinet" documents into active business drivers.
• Navigating the Regulatory Patchwork: Why the EU AI Act, NIST Framework, and ISO 42001 are valuable guideposts for global AI adoption.
• AI and the Human-in-the-Loop: Why soft skills like trust, empathy, and persuasive communication are more valuable now than ever before.
• The Legal Business Model Tipping Point: Rich's take on the future of the billable hour and how AI is transforming the dynamic between in-house teams and outside counsel.

• Rich Sauer on LinkedIn: Rich Sauer
• Workday Official Website: Workday.com
• Workday AI & Innovation: Workday AI
• Evisort (Part of Workday): Evisort Website
• Regulatory Frameworks Mentioned:
• EU AI Act: Official Information
• NIST AI Risk Management Framework: NIST.gov
• ISO/IEC 42001 (AI Management System): ISO Standards
• Hal Marcus on LinkedIn: Hal Marcus
• Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn: Memme Onwudiwe

• How to position yourself as a Legal AI expert on your team by staying informed on critical AI developments
• Why the New York Times v. OpenAI case matters beyond just the case of publishing
• Why the $1.5 billion Anthropic settlement is an important precedent
• How to build confidence in AI tools through closed-environment systems leveraging Retrieval-Augmented Generation (RAG)
• Why pro se litigants are winning cases using AI platforms for $20/month and the impact of this on access to justice
• The critical distinction between human authorship and AI generation in copyright law

• Kimberley Odums on LinkedIn
• IEEE Website
• Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn
• Hal Marcus on LinkedIn
• Evisort Website

• How the evolution of eDiscovery created a blueprint for legal technology adoption and transformation
• Why generative and agentic AI represent a paradigm shift in legal services
• The three-bucket framework for measuring ROI in legal tech implementation
• How to successfully implement Contract Lifecycle Management (CLM) by starting with a Minimum Viable Product (MVP) approach
• Why contract visibility should precede workflow automation for optimal results
• Why to expect the emergence of a Chief Contracting Officer role and why multidisciplinary skills will define the future legal department
• Why legal teams must balance risk management with business enablement to remain strategically relevant
• Why traditional legal business models remain resilient even in the face of technological disruption

• Mark Ross on LinkedIn
• Deloitte Website
• Memme Onwudiwe on LinkedIn
• Hal Marcus on LinkedIn
• Evisort Website