Content Note: This episode includes discussion of suicidality and self-harm. We hold this conversation with care, but please listen in the way that best supports your nervous system and well-being.

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What happens when you get sober—and your intuition gets loud? In this powerful, funny, and deeply honest conversation, Jen Butler (author, screenwriter, actor, comedian, and creator of Volume Control) joins Sarah Rathke and Jane Morgan to talk about sobriety as a spiritual turning point, feeling psychically “wide open,” and learning energetic boundaries when you’re a highly sensitive person.

Jen shares her journey from numbing and atheism “lite,” to terrifying spirit experiences, to building real nervous-system safety and emotional regulation. You’ll hear practical tools for energetic clearing, why “don’t talk about it” can make fear worse, how to feel anger without labeling it “low vibration,” and a mind-blowing “future self” story that will stay with you. Plus: reincarnation signs, “effin' tea,” salt baths, sage, and the reality that being human is… a lot.

Takeaways

• Sobriety can turn the volume up—emotionally and psychically. When the numbing stops, your sensitivity may feel raw at first, but it can become a superpower with skills and support.

• Energetic boundaries aren’t just salt and sage. Tools can help, but the foundation is learning to feel safe in your body and regulate your nervous system.

• “We don’t talk about that” makes fear worse. Avoiding dark topics (spirits, depression, suicidality, “demons”) can amplify shame and isolation instead of helping you move through it.

• Meditation isn’t quieting your mind—it’s not reacting. The muscle is staying present while thoughts and feelings move through, and choosing not to spiral or act from alarm.

• Your past self deserves compassion—not criticism. Healing can look like “future you” showing up to hold “past you” through the worst moments.

• Highly sensitive people can build big lives. You might need more tools, more rest, and more honesty—but you don’t have to stay small.

“Being human’s a lot.” “It’s all about emotional regulation.”

Links Jen Butler’s Website: https://www.jenbutlersays.com/ Medium Curious: https://www.mediumcurious.com Jane: https://www.janemorganmedium.com Sarah: https://www.sarahrathke.com Jane’s new cohort, Source Studio: https://www.janemorganmedium.com/higher-calling Instagram: @mediumcuriouspod Substack: https://mediumcuriouspod.substack.com/

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Support Note: If you or someone you love is struggling or feeling unsafe, you don’t have to go through it alone. In the U.S., you can call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (24/7, free, and confidential). If you’re outside the U.S., your local health services can help connect you to support in your country.

In this conversational “hangout” episode, Jane Morgan and Sarah Rathke invite listeners into a real-time catch-up—recorded Monday, January 26—because the collective intensity is loud right now and pretending it isn’t there isn’t helping. Sarah and Jane just keep coming back to the truth that we need to anchor the light.

Jane shares a playful-but-profound experiment: going on a “date with Spirit” (yes, with a notebook), including an unexpected “celebrity spirit” moment that becomes less about proof and more about impact—did it fill her up, steady her, and bring her back to light?

From there, the conversation goes deeper: What do we do with “darkness” (in the world and in the unseen)? Why some mediums don’t talk about entities/demons at all—and why Sarah and Jane are choosing a more nuanced stance: just because they haven’t experienced something doesn’t mean it isn’t real for someone else.

They also share practical, body-based and energetics-based ways to recover when you’re tuned into the fear, rage, uncertainty, and grief of the collective—plus why technology can feel “static” to the nervous system and energy field, and how to clear it fast.

• A simple, beautiful way to strengthen mediumship: “make a friendship with Spirit”
• Jane’s “date with Spirit” + what to do when your logical brain yells “BS”
• The difference between working in high vibration (mediumship) vs. getting pulled into heavy energetic residue
• How trauma/addiction can create its own “energy field” that feels entity-like
• Signs you’re “swamped” (fear, panic, anxiety) and how to reset quickly
• Practical tools: hands-on-body breathing, grounding + “as above, so below,” bubble-clearing, nature, water-blessing, and calling in angels
• A candid behind-the-scenes moment: podcast production strain, tech glitches, and why ratings/reviews matter

1. Impact matters. Whether an experience is “provable” isn’t always the point—if it steadies you, opens you, and brings you back to love, that ripple is real.
2. Discernment is the job right now. You can engage what’s hard without living there—pause, check your state, choose your next input.
3. Heavy energy can cling when you move too fast. Especially after intense readings or intense news cycles—clear your field before you jump to the next thing.
4. Your body is your quickest reset button. Hands to chest + belly, breathe, drink water, get outside, come back into your senses.
5. You can choose light without denying darkness. “Pretending it doesn’t exist” isn’t the solution; meeting it with grounded presence is.
6. Ask for help (even if you feel silly). Prayer, angels, guides, ancestors, “higher power”—call it what you want. The act of reaching changes your state.

• Swamp-check: notice fear/panic/anxiety as a cue to pause and repair
• Hands on body: one hand on chest, one on belly, slow breath
• Bless/charge water: set intention before drinking (love, calm, clarity)
• Root + light column (“as above, so below”): earth connection + higher connection meeting in your core
• Clear the bubble/field: remove what isn’t yours (breath, imagery, “vacuum,” “broom,” etc.), then call your energy back
• Nature as a reset: “Tree, fix me.” (Honestly.)
• Call in help: angels/ascended masters/Spirit team—especially when you’re past your own capacity

“We have to grab every little straw of joy.”

“The power… is awareness.”

“We are being called to anchor the light… so that we can illuminate the darkness.”

Can you be our angels? Just share and download. Please rate us, give us some five stars. ⭐️

• Medium Curious Website: https://www.mediumcurious.com
• Jane’s Website: https://www.janemorganmedium.com
• Sarah’s Website: https://www.sarahrathke.com
• Jane's new cohort 'Source Studio'; https://www.janemorganmedium.com/higher-calling
• Instagram: @mediumcuriouspod
• https://mediumcuriouspod.substack.com/
• Podcast Jane found with the healing music! Vibration Elevation

Trying to make sense of everything? Same. In this episode, Sarah explores the ripple effect—how everything is interconnected in the 3D world, and how that connection extends into the unseen world, too.

She looks at why collective stress doesn’t stay localized (climate, economies, the internet, COVID—pick your portal), why synchronicities can feel like the “matrix is thin,” and how spirit communication reminds us that relationship doesn’t end when someone dies.

Then Sarah shares her personal practice for anchoring the light: a grounding + “as above, so below” visualization designed to help regulate the nervous system, expand the capacity for love, and hold the field with intention—without draining personal energy.

And to be clear: this isn’t spiritual bypassing. Action, accountability, and engagement still matter. The question is—can it all be done from radical love instead of fear?

Key Words

anchoring the light, hold the field, nervous system regulation, spiritual grounding practice, intuition in chaotic times, collective consciousness, Maharishi effect, synchronicities, spirit communication, energy protection visualization, radical love not fear, Medium Curious Podcast, Sarah Sunday Solo

• Your nervous system is part of the medicine. Regulation increases capacity—for awareness, compassion, and effective action.
• Interconnection is not a concept—it’s a lived reality. What happens anywhere ripples everywhere: biologically, economically, emotionally, and energetically.
• Fear creates separation; felt connection restores power. When we identify as separate, we become reactive. When we feel connected, we reclaim sovereignty
• Healing spreads the same way harm does. One regulated person can stabilize a household; one steady household can shift a community.
• Anchor the light without draining yourself. Pull support from earth energy below and divine light above—don’t run everything on personal willpower.
• Action still matters. Love isn’t “do nothing.” Love is the frequency you bring while you engage, organize, protect, document, and show up.

“When we’re calibrated, we have the capacity for more… more awareness, more light, more compassion, more love.”

“It’s not just the fact that he is communicating from the other side. It’s about interconnection.”

“We need action and we need engagement… We just need to be doing it from the frequency of radical love and not fear.”

Join us on Substack for The Afterlife—bonus clips after the “mic is off” (wink).

Medium Curious Website: MediumCurious

Jane’s Website: Jane Morgan Medium

Sarah’s Website: Sarah Rathke

Podcast Instagram: @MediumCuriousPod

YouTube: @mediumcurious