We’re joined by Mikael Dia, founder and CEO of Funnelytics, a visual journey mapping tool built to help marketers optimize conversions and better communicate strategy.

Mikael shares how the rise of multi-touch, non-linear customer journeys inspired Funnelytics, and how the platform goes far beyond funnel mapping to uncover what drives results. We explore how marketers are using visualization to align teams, boost performance, and turn complex data into clear, actionable insights.

About Funnelytics

Funnelytics is a visual funnel analytics platform designed to help marketers track, analyze, and optimize the entire customer journey, without needing to be a data expert. By combining intuitive whiteboarding with powerful analytics, Funnelytics transforms complex data into clear, real-time visual maps that show exactly how users move through your marketing funnels.

Whether you're a hands-on marketer or prefer expert support, Funnelytics empowers you to grow smarter by identifying what’s working, what’s not, and where to focus next.

Time Stamps

00:00:18 - Guest Introduction: Mikael Dia 00:00:39 - Mikael 's Background and Journey in Digital Marketing 00:01:53 - The Evolution of Customer Journeys in Marketing 00:05:04 - Identifying the Core Problem Funnelytics Solves 00:08:36 - Understanding Funnelytics Customer Base 00:10:51 - Differences Between B2B and B2C Marketing Analytics 00:12:35 - Shifts in Customer Behavior Over the Years 00:14:29 - Sales Involvement in Selling Funnelytics 00:18:06 - The Importance of Branding in Marketing 00:20:07 - The Impact of AI on Marketing Trends 00:25:48 - How to Connect with Mikael Dia and Learn More About Funnelytics

Quotes

“Learn as much as you can about how the puzzle fits together...Marketing can be a machine, and it should be thought of as a machine. It shouldn't be thought of as how creative your next campaign is or what your logo look like and, and a lot of the stuff that falls under brand, it's all of it, it fits together to create a machine to turn strangers into customers. Learn as much about each puzzle piece to understand how can you architect that machine, for any company.” - Mikael Dia, founder and CEO of Funnelytics

Follow Mikael:

Mikael Dia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikaeldia/

Funnelytics website: https://www.funnelytics.io/

Funnelytics on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/funnelytics-io/about/

Follow Mike:

Mike Maynard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemaynard/

Napier website: https://www.napierb2b.com/

Napier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/napier-partnership-limited/

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We welcome back Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing and a leading voice in the industry. Four years after his last appearance, Joel shares how B2B marketing has evolved – impacted by COVID, political tensions, AI, and tariffs.

From the lasting power of podcasts to the shifting balance between brand and performance marketing, he explores the rise of human-centric strategies in B2B, the real impact of AI on MarTech, and why trust, influence, and advocacy are emerging as the new pillars of marketing success.

About B2B Marketing

B2B Marketing is the premier provider of insight and intelligence for marketers across all B2B sectors. Its Propolis community intelligence platform helps marketing teams become more effective and successful. The B2B Marketing Awards are the gold standard for excellence in B2B campaigns, while Ignite and the Global ABM Conference are among the most respected events on the B2B marketing calendar.

B2B Marketing’s offerings include an extensive content portfolio, such as the B2B Agencies Benchmarking Report, the B2B Marketing Podcast, and a suite of industry-focused training courses.

About Joel Harrison

Joel Harrison has spent over 20 years at the heart of the B2B marketing industry — as an editor, keynote speaker, ambassador, and evangelist — playing a pivotal role in shaping the dynamic sector we know today.

Today, Joel focuses on podcasting, public speaking, advisory work, and his upcoming book on thought leadership. He co-founded B2B Marketing magazine in 2004, establishing key industry events and the Propolis community. He remains co-owner and director of B2B Marketing (www.b2bmarketing.net), though he is no longer operationally involved.

Time Stamps

00:00:17 - Guest Introduction: Joel Harrison 00:00:44 - What Has Joel Been Doing Over the Last 4 Years? 00:02:54 - The Future of Podcasts 00:06:28 - Creating Valuable Conferences 00:08:40 - How Has the B2B Marketing Landscape Changed? 00:12:30 - Making B2B Marketing Less Boring 00:16:30 - The Impact of AI on the Marketing Stack 00:18:29 - The Rise of Influencer Marketing in B2B 00:24:20 - Best Marketing Advice and Career Tips Quotes

“In the 22 years I’ve been doing this, I’ve never seen a period that even compares remotely.” Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing

“The only thing you can be certain about is uncertainty.” Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing

“B2B marketing has definitely got more human. And that’s a good thing.” Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing

“AI isn’t the reason to buy a platform. The platform should solve a specific job — AI is just part of how it does it.” Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing

“We can’t really envisage what the midterm future looks like right now — we’re just so early in the AI journey.” Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing

“It’s not about being boring or not boring — it’s about being human and relevant.” Joel Harrison, founder of B2B Marketing

Follow Joel:

Joel Harrison on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joelharrison/

B2B Marketing’s website: https://www.b2bmarketing.net/

B2B Marketing on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/b2b-marketing/

Follow Mike:

Mike Maynard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemaynard/

Napier website: https://www.napierb2b.com/

Napier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/napier-partnership-limited/

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Alex Alexin, Head of Demand Generation at Insightful, shares how she found her way into marketing and ultimately into demand gen. She unpacks what demand generation really means today, beyond leads, and why data, analytics, and operations are at the core of effective strategy.

Learn how Insightful uses behavioral insights to refine personas, the evolving role of employee productivity tools, and how aligning sales and marketing on metrics drives better outcomes. Alex also shares a standout campaign that cut the sales cycle by 52% and highlights the value of testing, iteration, and curiosity in modern B2B marketing.

About Insightful

Insightful is a workforce analytics and productivity platform designed for modern teams looking to optimize performance, boost operational efficiency, and leverage data-driven workforce management. By integrating real-time activity tracking, behavioral analytics, and automated time mapping, Insightful simplifies employee monitoring, remote team oversight, and resource allocation, all within a single, intuitive platform.

Known for promoting productivity transparency, Insightful replaces scattered reports and multiple tools with a unified, real-time visibility layer that connects daily work directly to meaningful business outcomes.

Time Stamps

00:00:18 - Guest Introduction: Alex Alexin 00:00:42 - Alex's Career Journey 00:03:14 - Understanding Employee Monitoring 00:04:04 - The Purpose of Insightful's Software 00:05:36 - Reframing Employee Monitoring 00:06:15 - Marketing Approach Overview 00:06:33 - Defining Demand Generation 00:08:11 - Identifying Target Personas 00:12:06 - Balancing Brand Building and Demand Gen 00:12:23 - The Full Funnel Perspective 00:18:04 - SaaS vs. Other Industries 00:21:32 - Successful Campaigns and Learnings 00:24:25 - Key Marketing Advice 00:25:40 - Final Thoughts and Contact Information

Quotes

"I truly believe that the heart of demand generation is the operations behind it." Alex Alexin, Head of Demand Generation at Insightful

"It's all about how work happens and how you can really help your workforce do better or those workflows and those processes be better." Alex Alexin, Head of Demand Generation at Insightful

Follow Alex:

Alex Alexin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandraalexin/

Insightful website: https://www.insightful.io/

Insightful on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/insightfulio/

Follow Mike:

Mike Maynard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemaynard/

Napier website: https://www.napierb2b.com/

Napier LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/napier-partnership-limited/

If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe to our podcast for more discussions about the latest in Marketing B2B Tech and connect with us on social media to stay updated on upcoming episodes. We’d also appreciate it if you could leave us a review on your favourite podcast platform.

Want more? Check out Napier’s other podcast – The Marketing Automation Moment: https://podcasts.apple.com/ua/podcast/the-marketing-automation-moment-podcast/id1659211547