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Mark Derr: Dogs & History

Mark Derr: Dogs & History

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 Explore Our Services Episode Summary In Episode 02, Adam Winston sits down with historian Mark Derr to trace the journey of dogs in North America—from their arrival with Indigenous peoples as pack animals and spiritual companions, through colonial conquests and presidential preferences, to their service and suffering in global conflicts. We explore unique native breeds like the Salish Wool Dog, the foxhounds of Washington versus the herders of Jefferson, and the ethical complexities of war dogs in WWII, the Iraq War, and modern society. Read on for key takeaways, resource links, and the full transcript. Key Takeaways Indigenous communities in North America relied on dogs as pack animals, hunting assistants, and spiritual companions, often burying them with their owners.Spanish colonists weaponized dogs to brutalize Native peoples, a practice that led New England settlers to shun militarized dogs until the Seminole Wars.Presidential preferences for dogs reflect their priorities: George Washington’s passion for foxhounds versus Thomas Jefferson’s affinity for herding breeds.Military use of dogs in Nazi concentration camps and at Abu Ghraib raises enduring ethical questions about deploying animals in warfare.Today’s off-leash restrictions, record high dog ownership (70+ million in the U.S.), and shifting attitudes toward risk underscore an evolving human–dog relationship—and a potential societal backlash against dogs as fads fade. Resources & Links AmazonYouTubeDiscordRSS FeedGoogleInstagramLinkedInSpotifyTikTokTwitch Resources & LinksA Dog’s History of America by Mark Derr (book)Dogs’ Best Friend by Mark Derr (book)Show notes for S01E02: https://dogsinourworld.com/season-1-episode-2-dogs-and-history/Mark Derr’s website: http://www.markderr.com/Smithsonian article on war dogs: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/war-dogs-180967395/ Episode Transcript Show Transcript Part 1: Dogs and Indigenous North America MARK DERR: DOGS AND HISTORYThis will be another three-part episode. First, we’re going to learn about how dogs arrived to North America, their role in colonial history, and then forward in time to the 20th and 21st century. I posted lots of research links to the show notes at dogsinourworld.com. Part 1Mark: The main thing about history is that we learn it, so that we try to avoid re-peating it. By repeat it, I mean that we repeat the themes of history more than the actions of the people who formed them. Mark was just describing the theme of today’s show. This guy blows my mind every time I have the privilege of learning from him. You may have seen Mark on PBS, A&E, and the Discovery Channel. You can also read his stuff in the New York Times, Atlantic Monthly, and Smithsonian Magazine among many others. To me, he’s like the Gandalf of dog experts. If mother nature was actually a wise and no-nonsense dude in Miami Beach—she would be Mark Derr. Mark: I’m interested in the human connection to the natural and built world. Dogs I’m into, because they are a mediator between us. Dogs are interesting, because of their ubiquity in the world. They’re useful as companions and workers. If that makes sense to anyone…good. If not, you need a dog. In the first episode, we talked about the history of wolves and their transformation into dogs. In today’s show, we’re going to primarily focus on the history of dogs in North America. Then, onto the New World and through present day. In order to set the stage and give us a starting point, I asked Mark to explain how we first got dogs in North America. Mark: It’s long been assumed they came across the bearing straight. After the ice melt. Whether that’s true, I don’t know. That may change with genetic evidence, but I think they would have come with the first people. Adam: And what kind of dogs were these? Mark: They were probably wolf-like dogs as most were at the time. They became more wolf-like as they proceeded down the continent, I assume. Because, people lose them and need to replenish them. So, they bred with wolves for some time after the dog came into existence. We might call them dog-wolves, or dog-like, whichever. Native Americans were the first people to begin using dogs in North America. I have often said that dogs make me feel closer to both God and mother nature. That hard-to-define spiritual bond with a companion dog was also likely felt by some of the earliest peoples in America. Derr: It depends from culture to culture. We know from burials that they had an important place in society [and with] important people. [Dogs were] assumed to serve as guides to the land of the dead. Sometimes, dogs were sacrificed or died at the same time [as their owners]. [In order to] help them navigate to the new kingdom. The first dogs in North America also served as hunting dogs. Little dogs were used to bay, or control the movement of elk. Larger dogs helped native Americans hunt bear and wildcats. They were even used to hunt ...
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