In this unique episode, we sit down with Dr. Jane Goodyer, Dean of the Lassonde School of Engineering at York University and a global leader in reimagining engineering education. From her inspiring personal journey to pioneering Canada’s first fully work-integrated digital technologies degree, Jane shares how academia and industry can collaborate to prepare graduates for the ever-changing world of work.

We explore:

• What “work-integrated learning” really means and why it matters.
• How resilience, curiosity, and empathy are critical skills for tomorrow’s engineers.
• The role of psychological safety and active learning in shaping future talent.
• Why continuous learning and breaking down silos between education and industry is essential.

Whether you’re an SRE, an educator, or a lifelong learner, this conversation will challenge how you think about skills, adaptability, and preparing for the unexpected.

Things to listen for:

Jane’s Origin Story

• Her working-class background and early challenges.

• How resilience shaped her journey.

Work-Integrated Learning Explained

• Why it’s more than internships or co-ops.

• Active vs. passive learning and why doing matters.

Resilience for the Future of Work

• Why adaptability and psychological safety are essential.

Soft Skills as Hard Skills

• Empathy, communication, curiosity, and self-awareness.

Industry-Academia Collaboration

• The Trailblazer process and what employers really want.

Continuous Learning Beyond Graduation

• Breaking silos between education and work.

Advice for Engineers

• Be curious, brave, and true to your values.

In this unique episode, we sit down with Dr. Jane Goodyer, Dean of the Lassonde School of Engineering at York University and a global leader in reimagining engineering education. From her inspiring personal journey to pioneering Canada’s first fully work-integrated digital technologies degree, Jane shares how academia and industry can collaborate to prepare graduates for the ever-changing world of work.

We explore:

• What “work-integrated learning” really means and why it matters.
• How resilience, curiosity, and empathy are critical skills for tomorrow’s engineers.
• The role of psychological safety and active learning in shaping future talent.
• Why continuous learning and breaking down silos between education and industry is essential.

Whether you’re an SRE, an educator, or a lifelong learner, this conversation will challenge how you think about skills, adaptability, and preparing for the unexpected.

Things to listen for:

Jane’s Origin Story

• Her working-class background and early challenges.

• How resilience shaped her journey.

Work-Integrated Learning Explained

• Why it’s more than internships or co-ops.

• Active vs. passive learning and why doing matters.

Resilience for the Future of Work

• Why adaptability and psychological safety are essential.

Soft Skills as Hard Skills

• Empathy, communication, curiosity, and self-awareness.

Industry-Academia Collaboration

• The Trailblazer process and what employers really want.

Continuous Learning Beyond Graduation

• Breaking silos between education and work.

Advice for Engineers

• Be curious, brave, and true to your values.

Season 3 of Making of the SRE Omelette is here - and it’s all about resilience. Resilience isn’t just about surviving outages. It’s about building systems and cultures that adapt, learn, and thrive under pressure.

In our kickoff episode, we sit down with Dr. Jennifer Petoff, co-editor of Site Reliability Engineering: How Google Runs Production Systems and leader of Google’s Global SRE Education. Jennifer shares why resilience starts with people, not just technology—and how psychological safety and confidence are the secret ingredients for reliability at scale.

You’ll learn: * How to scale learning like a production system

* Why postmortem culture drives improvement

* How to apply SRE principles beyond infrastructure

If you’ve ever wondered how to make reliability a business advantage, this episode is for you.

Check out How to SRE Anything here: https://www.reliablepgm.com/how-to-sre-anything/

Topics: * Origins of SRE and Education at Google How Google scaled SRE education globally. Why education is treated like a production system (repeatable, reliable, measurable).

* Psychological Safety and Learning Why psychological safety is critical for resilience. Creating environments where teams can share mistakes without fear of blame. How this accelerates learning and reliability.

* Hands-On Experience as a Learning Model Importance of experiential learning (e.g., game days, simulations). Why theory alone isn’t enough for building confidence under pressure.

* Scaling Knowledge Across Large Organizations Strategies Google uses to scale SRE principles globally. Balancing standardization with flexibility for local teams.

* Resilience Beyond Reliability How resilience differs from reliability. Building adaptive systems and teams that thrive through adversity.

* Culture as a Foundation Why culture is the “secret ingredient” for successful SRE adoption. Encouraging curiosity and collaboration across roles.

* Future of SRE Education Trends in learning for distributed teams. How continuous education supports evolving reliability practices.