Making Money Was the Easy Way Out
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Making Money Was the Easy Way Out
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This one is unpolished and real. Two people, 40 years apart, who've both seen something beyond a life based on making money, talking honestly about it.
Doug has lived a lot of lives: corporate manager, permaculture designer, yacht skipper, ranch hand, wedding caterer. Not because he couldn't commit, but because curiosity kept winning.
In this conversation, we pull apart the stories most of us inherited about money, safety, and what a life is supposed to look like. And what it quietly costs us to live inside them without ever questioning them.
We talk about the moment Doug walked away from a corporate career, why making money felt like "the easy way out", and what permaculture taught him about how humans were never meant to live. We get into the "do-have-be" trap, what ninety-year-olds wish they'd done differently, the myth of retirement, and why reciprocity isn't linear. It's multidimensional.
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