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Every corner of life now feels like a forced choice: left or right, religious or secular, “our side” or “their side.” We don’t buy that those are the only options, and we’re testing that belief the only way we know how: two friends with clashing labels, a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist, trying to talk like actual humans.

A simple question kicks it off: why would Lucas start reading the Bible again, and why go straight to the Gospels during Lent? From there we get pulled into the Gospel of Luke and a weird pattern we can’t unsee, the moments where Jesus seems to answer a question and then drop a line that feels like it came from a different conversation. Are those awkward segues editorial seams, intentional jolts, or clues to a deeper thread we’re missing? We work through a concrete example and talk about how translation and interpretation shape what we think the text “really says.”

Then the conversation widens into rhetoric and media literacy. When information is everywhere and mostly free, persuasion becomes the battleground. We connect ancient rhetoric, sermon craft, stand-up comedy timing, and modern politics to one core takeaway: the medium affects the message, and your image communicates whether you mean it or not.

If you care about faith, skepticism, biblical interpretation, communication skills, and finding common ground in a polarized world, hit play. Subscribe, share the show with a friend, and leave a review so more people can find these conversations.

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In August last year we had the opportunity to sit down and have a converation with Peter Enns. Peter's insights regarding certainty have inspired much of Jeff's work. We decided to share that conversation with you again. Enjoy.

Every day feels like a forced-choice quiz: left or right, religious or secular, believer or skeptic, my people or your people. We want a different way to live, so we invited Bible scholar, author, and The Bible for Normal People co-founder Pete Enns to help us name what so many of us feel but rarely say out loud: certainty can become a trap, and honesty can be the first real step toward healing.

We talk about why admitting “I don’t know” is not a failure of faith, but a move toward authenticity. Pete connects spiritual doubt to the deeper reality that the world itself is saturated with mystery, from quantum physics to consciousness to the limits of language about God. We wrestle with Pascal’s wager, the role of intuition and experience in Bible interpretation, and why treating the Bible like a simple rulebook often collapses under its own weight.

The conversation gets practical and personal: what happens when certainty-driven communities push back, and what kinds of churches or communities actually make room for questioners. Pete shares why he remains Christian after so much deconstruction, how liturgical practice can “honor the head without living in it,” and why the cross was not just painful but profoundly shameful in the ancient world. That scandal flips power on its head, and it should challenge any attempt to use Christianity as control.

If you are navigating faith deconstruction, religious trauma, progressive Christianity, agnosticism, or just trying to find common ground with people you love, this one is for you. Subscribe, share with a friend who is tired of the sides, and leave a review with the question you are still carrying.

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Life can feel like it’s been chopped into rival zones: work, church, school, online, each one demanding you declare a side. We’re two friends who don’t fit the usual pairing a progressive Christian and a conservative atheist and we keep testing a simple question: can you stay close without surrendering your convictions?

We start by revisiting Stoicism, and why the modern “neo-Stoic” wave can be both useful and incomplete. Once you bring Logos back into the picture, classical Stoicism stops being mere grit and becomes a framework for meaning, virtue, and endurance when life gets brutal. From there, we pull on the thread of political labels and how “neocon” and “neolib” often operate as pejoratives that hide more than they reveal. We talk incentives, think tanks, bureaucracy, and the way power can keep the language of freedom while swapping in something else.

Then we get honest about why Atlas Shrugged can make you furious: a “free market” that isn’t free, regulation that protects insiders, and people benefiting from work they tried to block. A Steinbeck story about Junius Maltby sharpens the dilemma even more who gets to decide the right way to live, and when does “help” become harm? We end by circling back to community, inclusion, boundaries, and a Stoic challenge we’re trying to practice: letting the hardest obstacle become the path to growth.

Subscribe for more conversations like this, share the show with a friend you disagree with, and leave a review. What belief or label has kept you from seeing the person in front of you?

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