What if the thing holding your leadership back isn’t strategy… but your soul?

In this episode, Pastor Jeff sits down with Pastor Steve Robinson to unpack Soul Leadership—how trauma and chronic stress reshape the brain, why leaders get triggered, and how healthy leaders build healthy teams. You’ll learn the difference between self-leadership and soul leadership, why unprocessed pain turns into unhealthy patterns, and how God can bring you from fragmentation to wholeness.

If you’re a pastor, leader, or team builder trying to finish well, this conversation will give you language, tools, and hope.

TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Why Soul Leadership Matters
4:25 - The Book’s Big Idea And Audience
8:40 - Katrina, Burnout, And Hitting The Wall
11:30 - The Soul Leadership Cycle
14:20 - Self Leadership vs Soul Leadership
20:00 - Saul’s Wounds, Shame, And Control
29:20 - Moses Triggered: Accusation And Delay
34:20 - Building Resilience Before Crisis
41:00 - You Can’t Pray Trauma Away

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