Estate Planning Basics with Attorney Natalie Black (Worden Thane) | Wills, Trusts, Probate & Powers of Attorney (Note : Not official legal advise)
On this episode of Lets Talk Wealth Podcast, host Robert and co-host Josie talk with Natalie Black, a partner at Missoula law firm Worden & Thane, about her path from law school intern to partner and her “work hard, play hard” philosophy. Natalie explains core estate-planning documents—wills, trusts, powers of attorney, and living wills—why powers of attorney matter even for young adults, and how failing to plan can trigger costly guardianship/conservatorship proceedings. The conversation covers probate in Montana, strategies to avoid it (beneficiary designations, joint ownership, transfer-on-death deeds, and trusts), and why beneficiary designations can override a will. They compare Montana practice to “big law,” discuss revocable vs irrevocable trusts (including estate-tax and specialized needs planning concepts), touch on UTMA and 529 considerations, and highlight real-world scenarios involving incapacity, family conflict, and fraud risks.
( Note : Not to take this as official legal advice )
00:00 Welcome to the Lets Talk Wealth Podcast
00:40 Work Hard Play Hard
03:24 Becoming a Law Partner
05:17 Why Law School
09:39 Standing Out in Interviews
16:34 Big Law vs Montana Practice
21:59 Choosing Estate Planning
27:30 Estate Planning Basics
32:31 Recruiting Drive to MEPS
33:01 Wrong Way Crash Scene
34:04 First Responder Aftermath
34:53 Estate Planning Cost Reality
36:07 Holographic Wills Explained
37:44 Power of Attorney Pitfalls
39:56 Beneficiary Designation Nightmares
43:34 Why Beneficiaries Override Wills
46:15 Probate Process Breakdown
51:38 Guardianship for Minor Kids
55:57 UTMA and 529 Tradeoffs
59:36 Changing UTMA Needs Court
01:02:53 Parenting Tangent and Control
01:05:09 Control in Marriage
01:05:57 Trust Basics Explained
01:07:13 Revocable vs Irrevocable
01:09:53 Estate Tax Gifting Trusts
01:12:52 State Laws and Community Property
01:15:39 Prenups and Protecting Wealth
01:25:56 Medicaid Trusts and Lookback
01:28:24 Corporate Trustees and Compliance
01:31:55 Special Needs Trusts
01:33:23 Medicaid Workarounds Reality
01:33:54 Estate Planning Priorities
01:35:13 Power of Attorney Basics
01:35:57 Living Wills and Trusts
01:37:09 Durable vs Springing POA
01:39:13 Limiting Authority and Fiduciary Duty
01:42:43 Undue Influence Red Flags
01:45:46 Challenging Capacity in Court
01:47:55 Scams and Advisor Intervention
01:52:27 Stewardship and Value Mindset
01:56:16 How to Connect and Wrap Up
( Disclaimer : This podcast is for general information and educational purposes only. This is not official legal or wealth advice)