The final episode brings Justin Bergman’s story onto pool’s biggest stage. Here the focus turns fully to the Mosconi Cup years: the pressure, the personalities, the preparation, the heartbreak, the joy, and the chaos that can only happen when elite pool collides with a made-for-TV team event. Justin talks about the differences between his various Mosconi experiences, including the early years in Blackpool and the later appearance on a winning American side in Las Vegas. He reflects on what it meant to finally be part of a U.S. team that beat Europe, and why that experience remains one of the great highlights of his career.

There are also wonderful behind-the-scenes stories throughout. Mark Wilson recalls the discipline he tried to impose on the American side, including fines for lateness, the challenge of preparing players in a city as distracting as Las Vegas, and the famous story of Justin disappearing with the walk-on girls instead of making practice on time. It is funny, revealing, and very human — a perfect example of how even a world-class event is shaped by personality as much as pressure. Justin also discusses players who seem built for that arena, the luck required in short races, and the matches that still stay with him.

The episode closes by looking forward as much as back. Justin talks about wanting another shot, about adjusting his schedule to make a realistic run at team consideration again, and about the fact that some ambitions never fully leave a player. It is an ideal ending: reflective, entertaining, and full of unfinished business.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a cue sports history podcast featuring interviews with Hall of Fame members, world champions, and influential figures from across the world of cue sports—including pocket billiards, snooker, and carom disciplines such as three-cushion billiards. We highlight the people, places, and moments that have shaped the game—celebrating iconic players, memorable events, historic venues, and the brands that helped define generations of play. With a focus on the positive spirit of the sport, our goal is to create a rich, engaging, and timeless archive of stories that fans can enjoy now and for years to come.

Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher and Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, Legends of the Cue brings these stories to life—told in the voices of the game’s greatest figures.

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In Part 3, Justin Bergman opens up about something that has defined his entire career: he has never wanted to live like everybody else. Justin talks candidly about why pool appealed to him not just as a game, but as a way of life — a life outside the routines, schedules, and expectations that so many people accept without question. That independent streak helps explain both the brilliance of his career and the unusual path he chose through it. Rather than chase every tournament on the calendar, Justin reflects on why he preferred being home, why nonstop travel wore on him, and why he never felt compelled to follow the same script as other top professionals.

This section also gets into the realities of matching up at a high level: table conditions, negotiations, equipment, and the fine margins that matter when the opponent is world class. From there the conversation turns to one of the most important chapters in Justin’s career: the Mosconi Cup. He describes getting the call from U.S. captain Mark Wilson, the pressure both men felt because of their close relationship, and the need to prove that the selection was earned on merit. Mark offers his side as well, explaining why he believed Justin belonged there and why the atmosphere of the event is unlike anything most players have ever experienced.

More than anything, this episode is about identity. It shows Justin as an artist, a nonconformist, and a player who has always trusted his own instincts over conventional wisdom. For listeners who have ever wondered why Justin Bergman’s career looks different from others with similar ability, this is the episode that answers it.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a cue sports history podcast featuring interviews with Hall of Fame members, world champions, and influential figures from across the world of cue sports—including pocket billiards, snooker, and carom disciplines such as three-cushion billiards. We highlight the people, places, and moments that have shaped the game—celebrating iconic players, memorable events, historic venues, and the brands that helped define generations of play. With a focus on the positive spirit of the sport, our goal is to create a rich, engaging, and timeless archive of stories that fans can enjoy now and for years to come.

Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher and Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, Legends of the Cue brings these stories to life—told in the voices of the game’s greatest figures.

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Part 2 follows Justin Bergman from gifted young player to feared road man, and it is packed with the kind of stories pool fans love. Justin talks about the pros and great players who passed through his orbit while he was still a kid, including Efren Reyes and other international stars who came through Mark Wilson’s room. He explains the way he really learned to practice — not through endless drills, but by throwing out all 15 balls and playing rotation, a method he still trusts today. The conversation also opens into a broader appreciation of cue-sport genius, with great discussion about Efren’s astonishing versatility and why certain players seem to see the game on a different level.

From there, the episode moves into the action side of Justin’s life. He recalls gambling as a teenager, keeping a ledger of players and places, flying to California for weekend scores, and taking a wild Reno road trip that turned into a marathon money match, near-disaster winter travel, and a four-year relationship that began in Utah. It is a vivid portrait of a disappearing pool culture — one built on backers, spot books, action rooms, and the constant search for the next game. Justin and Mark also talk about one pocket, the St. Louis gambling scene, and the late Mark O’Brien’s role in helping Justin develop into a more complete player.

The episode closes on Justin’s early competitive breakthroughs, including BEF Junior National success and overseas trips representing the United States, where he first saw just how high the international standard really was. It is a terrific chapter on education by experience, and on how talent becomes toughness.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a cue sports history podcast featuring interviews with Hall of Fame members, world champions, and influential figures from across the world of cue sports—including pocket billiards, snooker, and carom disciplines such as three-cushion billiards. We highlight the people, places, and moments that have shaped the game—celebrating iconic players, memorable events, historic venues, and the brands that helped define generations of play. With a focus on the positive spirit of the sport, our goal is to create a rich, engaging, and timeless archive of stories that fans can enjoy now and for years to come.

Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher and Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, Legends of the Cue brings these stories to life—told in the voices of the game’s greatest figures.

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In this first installment with American pool star Justin Bergman, we go all the way back to the beginning. Justin shares what it was like growing up in Fairview Heights, Illinois, just outside St. Louis, in a family where pool quickly became more than just a pastime. He talks about learning the game through his father and uncle, getting his first real table at home, and falling so deeply in love with pool that it soon crowded out baseball, basketball, and just about everything else.

This episode also shines a light on the early bond between Justin and Legends of the Cue co-host Mark Wilson, who first saw something rare in the young player at Teachers Billiards. Mark tells unforgettable stories from those days, including Justin running racks as a child, competing fearlessly against grown men, and showing the laser focus that would later earn him the nickname “Iceberg.” There are terrific laughs here too, including the story of Justin staying calm while his little sister rode circles around the table on a tricycle — and even tossed a Barbie doll onto the cloth — while he kept right on shooting.

You’ll also hear about the rich St. Louis-area pool culture that helped shape Justin’s game, the competitive spark he shared with Lars Vardaman, and a hilarious story involving Kathy, a tiny tournament, and the “major title” that supposedly forced Mark into marriage. This is a warm, funny, deeply personal opening chapter on one of America’s most naturally gifted cueists.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a cue sports history podcast featuring interviews with Hall of Fame members, world champions, and influential figures from across the world of cue sports—including pocket billiards, snooker, and carom disciplines such as three-cushion billiards. We highlight the people, places, and moments that have shaped the game—celebrating iconic players, memorable events, historic venues, and the brands that helped define generations of play. With a focus on the positive spirit of the sport, our goal is to create a rich, engaging, and timeless archive of stories that fans can enjoy now and for years to come.

Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher and Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, Legends of the Cue brings these stories to life—told in the voices of the game’s greatest figures.

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The final episode brings the drama home. With the number climbing, the pressure building, and history within reach, John Schmidt and Bob Keller take us through the closing stages of the 820 run and the decisions that still linger in the mind afterward. This is where the discussion turns to the final racks, the unconventional moments, the nerve required to keep going, and the emotional reality of coming so close to even bigger numbers. John reflects on the shots he would and would not choose in match play, the calm that comes from having lived in these positions before, and the strange mix of satisfaction and agony that can follow a run of this magnitude.

Bob adds an invaluable witness perspective, including how he tracked the run, how they used simple visual markers to measure progress, and when it became obvious that something special was unfolding. Together, they show that the late stages of a great run are not just about execution. They are about trust, rhythm, composure, and the ability to keep your decision-making intact while the number grows heavier with every rack.

The result is a fitting finale to a remarkable series. It is part postgame, part confession, part masterclass, and part love letter to straight pool itself. Above all, it captures what Legends of the Cue does best: preserving the stories behind the shots, in the voices of the people who lived them.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a cue sports history podcast featuring interviews with Hall of Fame members, world champions, and influential figures from across the world of cue sports—including pocket billiards, snooker, and carom disciplines such as three-cushion billiards. We highlight the people, places, and moments that have shaped the game—celebrating iconic players, memorable events, historic venues, and the brands that helped define generations of play. With a focus on the positive spirit of the sport, our goal is to create a rich, engaging, and timeless archive of stories that fans can enjoy now and for years to come.

Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher and Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, Legends of the Cue brings these stories to life—told in the voices of the game’s greatest figures.

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In part four, the series shifts into the pure mechanics of greatness. This is where John Schmidt and Bob Keller begin unpacking the actual run in a way straight pool lovers will savor. They discuss break balls, key balls, rack patterns, cue-ball precision, manufacturing insurance balls, and the many little recovery shots that separate a big run from a broken one. What becomes clear very quickly is that 820 was not a clean, carefree stroll. It was a living, breathing puzzle solved one rack at a time by a player with extraordinary knowledge of the game.

John makes one of the most telling points of the entire interview when he says that the right way to judge a huge run is not just by the final number, but by how many shots in it would still make sense in a real match. That standard matters to him. Bob, meanwhile, highlights how often John had to create break balls, rescue awkward situations, and trust his cue-ball control under constant pressure. Their back-and-forth becomes both technical and dramatic, because every pattern has consequence and every decision carries risk.

For serious students of straight pool, this episode is a gold mine. For casual listeners, it is a chance to hear a master explain his craft in plain language. By the time this installment ends, you will understand why 820 is not just a number. It is a blueprint of elite problem-solving on a pool table.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a cue sports history podcast featuring interviews with Hall of Fame members, world champions, and influential figures from across the world of cue sports—including pocket billiards, snooker, and carom disciplines such as three-cushion billiards. We highlight the people, places, and moments that have shaped the game—celebrating iconic players, memorable events, historic venues, and the brands that helped define generations of play. With a focus on the positive spirit of the sport, our goal is to create a rich, engaging, and timeless archive of stories that fans can enjoy now and for years to come.

Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher and Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, Legends of the Cue brings these stories to life—told in the voices of the game’s greatest figures.

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Part three gets inside John Schmidt’s head, and it may be the most revealing episode of the series. John talks candidly about self-doubt, aging, criticism, pride, and the internal switch he flips when it is time to chase a giant number. He explains that for him, straight pool is no longer about trying harder or focusing harder. It is about seeing the game so clearly that entire racks begin to unfold almost automatically. Bob Keller confirms that point in unforgettable fashion, saying there are only a few players he has ever seen who can read a rack at that level, and that John is one of them.

The conversation also explores what separates players who flirt with big runs from those who can survive the emotional grind of repeated failure. John talks about missing a ball, not blinking, and getting right back into the next inning. He describes why experience matters more than pure shot-making and why, at 52, he may actually understand the game better than the younger version of himself ever did. It is a fascinating look at how mastery evolves.

There is humor, honesty, and vulnerability throughout, but the central theme is unmistakable: the run started long before 820. It started with the ability to withstand disappointment, block out noise, and keep coming back. If you have ever wondered what elite cue-sport confidence really sounds like, this episode gives you a rare and deeply human answer.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a cue sports history podcast featuring interviews with Hall of Fame members, world champions, and influential figures from across the world of cue sports—including pocket billiards, snooker, and carom disciplines such as three-cushion billiards. We highlight the people, places, and moments that have shaped the game—celebrating iconic players, memorable events, historic venues, and the brands that helped define generations of play. With a focus on the positive spirit of the sport, our goal is to create a rich, engaging, and timeless archive of stories that fans can enjoy now and for years to come.

Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher and Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, Legends of the Cue brings these stories to life—told in the voices of the game’s greatest figures.

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What does it really take to run 820 balls? In part two, John Schmidt and Bob Keller pull back the curtain on the conditions, equipment, routines, and tiny details that made this historic straight pool run possible. This is the laboratory episode. John walks us through the Gold Crown table, legal five-inch pockets, Simonis cloth, Predator Arcos balls, modern chalk, donut rings, polished balls, fatigue mats, Hoka shoes, and even the nutritional routine that helped him feel stronger and fresher than he expected. He makes it clear that in a high-run attempt, nothing is random. Every edge matters.

John also explains why the modern game has changed. He contrasts his 626 attempt years earlier with this run, describing how template-style racking, cleaner equipment, and a better understanding of break shots opened up new possibilities. Bob adds valuable insight on ball-per-inning average, the stat he believes reveals John’s true greatness. Their discussion makes a fascinating point: the high run gets the headlines, but consistency may tell the deeper story.

There is also a wonderful amount of humor here, because this is still John Schmidt. He talks about Bitcoin, COVID, protein powder, chalk skids, and why a 200-ball runner is the only kind of man he wants racking for him when something serious is on the line. By the end of this episode, listeners will understand that 820 was not luck, and it was not magic. It was preparation meeting obsession, with every possible variable pushed in the right direction.

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"Legends of the Cue" is a cue sports history podcast featuring interviews with Hall of Fame members, world champions, and influential figures from across the world of cue sports—including pocket billiards, snooker, and carom disciplines such as three-cushion billiards. We highlight the people, places, and moments that have shaped the game—celebrating iconic players, memorable events, historic venues, and the brands that helped define generations of play. With a focus on the positive spirit of the sport, our goal is to create a rich, engaging, and timeless archive of stories that fans can enjoy now and for years to come.

Co-hosted by WPA and BCA Hall of Fame member Allison Fisher and Mosconi Cup player and captain Mark Wilson, Legends of the Cue brings these stories to life—told in the voices of the game’s greatest figures.

Join Allison, Mark and Mike Gonzalez for “Legends of the Cue.”