Legendary nerdcore rapper mc chris joins the show to talk about the long, emotional 8-year journey to finish his highly anticipated new album, King in Black. Fresh off the delivery truck arriving mid-interview, Chris opens up about navigating the creative process, balancing his schedule as a full-time single dad, and reclaiming his artistic momentum to push through writer's block.

Clay and Dursin sit down with Chris to look back at his 25-year legacy starting with the premiere of Adult Swim, the early message board days of Sealab 2021, and the explosion of nerd culture from a private bedroom experience into a mainstream convention phenomenon. Chris shares the mental tricks he uses to remember lightning-fast lyrics on stage, the hilarious chaos of doing an all-request anniversary tour, and why staying fiercely independent is the ultimate cheat code for a long-lasting career in music.

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