In this episode of Lead to Win, Pastor Jeff Little sits down with Holly Wagner for a powerful conversation on leadership, pain, resilience, and learning how to stand through hard seasons.
Holly shares from decades of ministry experience, including planting and pastoring Oasis Church in Los Angeles, walking through cancer, navigating betrayal, and learning how to keep going when life and leadership feel heavy. She unpacks why hard seasons are not always destructive, how pain can become part of your purpose, and why leaders have to pay attention to the health of their soul.
Whether you are in ministry, business, parenting, or any season where you feel pressure to quit, this conversation will encourage you to push through the hard, manage your soul, and keep showing up with faith, joy, and endurance.
TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Choosing A Different Path
0:56 - Fly Fishing And The Learning Curve
2:45 - Connection To Milestone And Texas
7:55 - From Duke Medicine To Acting
13:40 - Planting A Church In Los Angeles
15:59 - The Black Belt Myth Of Growth
20:40 - Facing Cancer While Leading People
24:50 - Stop Asking Why Start Asking How
27:05 - Grief Loss And Betrayal Collide
31:05 - Learning To Fight With Love
37:10 - Mentoring Leaders With Real Honesty
43:00 - Manage Your Soul And Your Rhythms
52:30 - Enjoy The Journey And Closing
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