In this episode, we gather for a post-show recap after our Deeper Dive into Sleep Coaching with expert Shelly Taft.

We kick things off by tackling the delicate dance between lactation support and sleep coaching—because helping babies sleep while helping them eat is basically the professional equivalent of juggling flaming swords while riding a unicycle.

We also talk about something that helping professionals are famously bad at: self-care. You know, that thing we all enthusiastically recommend to clients and then immediately forget to do ourselves.

“15 to 20 minutes after the baby falls asleep is when they enter their deepest sleep state, so they're less likely to wake up.”

In this episode, we will cover:

• Self-care practices to help you start the day slowly instead of jumping into business (4:05)
• Moving away from hustle culture to create a more balanced lifestyle (9:06)
• Working with families facing sleep-related issues (18:24)
• The importance of collaborative learning (20:10)

Each month we host a live Deeper Dive so you can connect with us, our special guests, and each other + get lifetime access to the recording!

Links and Resources

• Connect with Shelly: https://www.shellytaftibclc.com/
• Listen to Shelly’ podcast, Baby Pro: https://www.shellytaftibclc.com/podcast/
• Check out the Habit Nest app: https://habitnest.com/pages/mobile-app?srsltid=AfmBOooWWkfcYXbNri_YvN4DbaG7HtqLpZhZfa1nGOs_Ov6eesP6RcWJ
• Subscribe to the Deeper Dive Membership: https://learn.paperlesslactation.com/subscription/deeper-dive-membership
• Have an idea for a podcast episode or a Deeper Dive? Let us know! https://learn.paperlesslactation.com/form/collaborate
• Submit your listener questions here: https://forms.gle/NsmGysHMAULW9o1z5

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About Us

Leah Jolly is a private practice IBCLC with Bay Area Breastfeeding in Houston, Texas.

Annie Frisbie is a private practice IBCLC serving Queens and Brooklyn in New York City and the creator of the Lactation Consultant Private Practice Toolkit.

• Gina Pepe
• Gina Pepe
• Allison Walsh
• Allison Walsh
• Rebecca Leese
• Rebecca Leese
• Celia Clark-Randall
• Celia Clark-Randall
• Chanelle Andrews
• Denise McDonald
• Denise McDonald
• Mary Muse
• JOC Team
• JOC Team
• Heather Bell
• Heather Bell
• Nicole Letizia
• Nicole Letizia
• Cathleen Walker
• Sarah Shapiro, IBCLC
• Sarah Shapiro, IBCLC
• Theresa Hardy
• Heather Martin
• Heather Martin
• Susan Johnson
• Susan Johnson
• Maggie Rezende
• Maggie Rezende
• Elizabeth Stapleton
• Elizabeth Stapleton
• Heather Mastro
• Heather Mastro
• Melanie Tarr
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• Molly McMillion
• Molly McMillion
• Morenike Tyehimba
• Morenike Tyehimba
• Margot Hodes
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• Denise McDonald
• Denise McDonald
• Audrey Thompson
• Audrey Thompson
• Beth Brownstein
• Beth Brownstein
• Zee Ifan
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Each month, Annie and I take a deeper dive into topics and information with an expert to give us more insights on things that we might be incorporating in our clinical practice as well as entrepreneurs and business owners. We're bringing you this snippet today to give you a taste of what these deeper dives are all about.

Let's talk about adding sleep coaching to your lactation business with Shelly Taft LPN, ISE, IBCLC.

Shelly Taft is a dedicated and compassionate healthcare professional with a deep commitment to supporting families through the early stages of parenthood. She is the founder and owner of Shelly Taft, IBCLC, a private practice providing individualized, judgment-free lactation and infant sleep support to families in Massachusetts and Rhode Island. Shelly has been serving new parents since 2007, helping them navigate the complexities of breastfeeding, bottle feeding, and sleep challenges with evidence-based guidance and practical solutions.

Each month we host a live Deeper Dive so you can connect with us, our special guests, and each other + get lifetime access to the recording!

Links and Resources

• Subscribe to the Deeper Dive Membership: https://learn.paperlesslactation.com/subscription/deeper-dive-membership
• **Have an idea for a podcast episode or a Deeper Dive? Let us know! https://learn.paperlesslactation.com/form/collaborate
• **Submit your listener questions here: https://forms.gle/NsmGysHMAULW9o1z5

If you like what you heard today, please follow us on Facebook and Instagram.

About Us

Leah Jolly is a private practice IBCLC with Bay Area Breastfeeding in Houston, Texas.

Annie Frisbie is a private practice IBCLC serving Queens and Brooklyn in New York City and the creator of the Lactation Consultant Private Practice Toolkit.

• Gina Pepe
• Gina Pepe
• Allison Walsh
• Allison Walsh
• Rebecca Leese
• Rebecca Leese
• Celia Clark-Randall
• Celia Clark-Randall
• Chanelle Andrews
• Denise McDonald
• Denise McDonald
• Mary Muse
• JOC Team
• JOC Team
• Heather Bell
• Heather Bell
• Nicole Letizia
• Nicole Letizia
• Cathleen Walker
• Sarah Shapiro, IBCLC
• Sarah Shapiro, IBCLC
• Theresa Hardy
• Heather Martin
• Heather Martin
• Susan Johnson
• Susan Johnson
• Maggie Rezende
• Maggie Rezende
• Elizabeth Stapleton
• Elizabeth Stapleton
• Heather Mastro
• Heather Mastro
• Melanie Tarr
• Melanie Tarr
• Molly McMillion
• Molly McMillion
• Morenike Tyehimba
• Morenike Tyehimba
• Margot Hodes
• Margot Hodes
• Denise McDonald
• Denise McDonald
• Audrey Thompson
• Audrey Thompson
• Beth Brownstein
• Beth Brownstein
• Zee Ifan
• Zee Ifan

Each month, Annie and I take a deeper dive into topics and information with an expert to give us more insights on things that we might be incorporating in our clinical practice as well as entrepreneurs and business owners. We're bringing you this snippet today to give you a taste of what these deeper dives are all about.

Educating families about bottles is within the scope of practice for the IBCLC. And despite what some will say, it's NOT against the WHO Code to do so. Rachel O'Brien MA, IBCLC is our guest this month for our Deeper Dive into Private Practice. Join the conversation hosted by Annie Frisbie MA, IBCLC and Leah Jolly IBCLC of the Lactation Business Coaching Podcast. This is your chance to ask all 3 of us anything!

Rachel is a IBCLC in Massachusetts whose popular blog is a favorite of both families and lactation professionals. Her signature style of humor laced with pragmatic compassion and guilt-free support has resonated with hundreds of thousands of readers and has led to a busy full-time private practice which includes virtual visits with blog readers from across the world.

Before her foray into lactation-land Rachel received her BA in English with a Journalism concentration and then worked in higher education for years. She became an IBCLC in 2015 after completing her Masters degree in lactation, during which she wrote her dissertation on low milk supply. Rachel was a full-time working, breastfeeding and pumping mom for all three of her children and now specializes in low supply, bottle refusal and bottle feeding problems, working parents, and LGBTQ+ families.

When not working with families you will find Rachel reading lactation books, taking lactation courses, and fervently posting in lactation Facebook groups. Her hobbies include reading, watching drag shows, and staring blankly off into the distance while she wonders what she’s forgetting to do.

Each month we host a live Deeper Dive so you can connect with us, our special guests, and each other + get lifetime access to the recording!

Links and Resources

• Subscribe to the Deeper Dive Membership: https://learn.paperlesslactation.com/subscription/deeper-dive-membership
• Have an idea for a podcast episode or a Deeper Dive? Let us know! https://learn.paperlesslactation.com/form/collaborate
• Submit your listener questions here: https://forms.gle/NsmGysHMAULW9o1z5

If you like what you heard today, please follow us on Facebook and Instagram.

About Us

Leah Jolly is a private practice IBCLC with Bay Area Breastfeeding in Houston, Texas.

Annie Frisbie is a private practice IBCLC serving Queens and Brooklyn in New York City and the creator of the Lactation Consultant Private Practice Toolkit.

• Gina Pepe
• Gina Pepe
• Allison Walsh
• Allison Walsh
• Rebecca Leese
• Rebecca Leese
• Celia Clark-Randall
• Celia Clark-Randall
• Chanelle Andrews
• Denise McDonald
• Denise McDonald
• Mary Muse
• JOC Team
• JOC Team
• Heather Bell
• Heather Bell
• Nicole Letizia
• Nicole Letizia
• Cathleen Walker
• Sarah Shapiro, IBCLC
• Sarah Shapiro, IBCLC
• Theresa Hardy
• Heather Martin
• Heather Martin
• Susan Johnson
• Susan Johnson
• Maggie Rezende
• Maggie Rezende
• Elizabeth Stapleton
• Elizabeth Stapleton
• Heather Mastro
• Heather Mastro
• Melanie Tarr
• Melanie Tarr
• Molly McMillion
• Molly McMillion
• Morenike Tyehimba
• Morenike Tyehimba
• Margot Hodes
• Margot Hodes
• Denise McDonald
• Denise McDonald
• Audrey Thompson
• Audrey Thompson
• Beth Brownstein
• Beth Brownstein
• Zee Ifan
• Zee Ifan