In the open, Charlie and Nolan discuss the fed's proposed 7OH ban. Jacob talks to interview guest Alyse about her journey from discovering kratom during bodybuilding training to struggling with addiction, multiple relapses, and ultimately seeking recovery through detox, medically assisted treatment, and support systems. While at time of this broadcast, she is kratom free for a couple months now, she is on a wait list to go to 30-day residential rehab to invest in long term abstinence from the green kava-kratom drinks, an addiction that caused her to lose a job and major strains on important relationships.

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Jacob and Nolan open on how addiction is a lifetime journey thought not a permanent ongoing struggle. In the interview, Jonny became addicted to 7-OH in both liquid and tablet versions, which led to rapid tolerance and severe dependence. He ultimately quit after a car accident by entering a treatment facility, where he used Suboxone to help with withdrawal and later the Sublocade injection as part of his treatment plan, combined with structured recovery housing, community support, and daily routines like yoga and AA meetings.

RPT model discussed by Johnny:

"Relapse Prevention Therapy" (RPT) based on research by Terence Gorsky:

The Dynamics of Relapse: Cunning, Baffling and Predictable – RecoveryView – Behavioral Health Community

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Lily and Jacob explore the potential of cannabis becoming a substitute or cross addiction to kratom. Ryan talks to Lily about his struggles this past year relapsing on kava-kratom tonics, and escalating to other substances such as alcohol and opiates.

Heads up, this episode's interview includes talk of suicide. Remember to dial 988 to talk get help, or text HOME to 741-741 to reach the Crisis Text Line or www.Crisistextline.org

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