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After struggling with alcohol for all his twenties, Ryan discovered kratom right before pandemic started. This began a cycle of trading booze for powder (than later extracts back to booze for seven years, ever able to quit either, both getting progressively worse. Ryan went to a traditional rehab and is now 70 plus days off of everything.

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This week, Charlie interviews Dr. Feldman, who recently wrote a paper about kratom and poison control exposures in the U.S. Dr. Feldman received a Doctorate of Pharmacy and completed two years of post-doctoral residency training focused in emergency medicine and toxicology. After residency he continued work in an emergency department and at a local poison center. After many years managing emergencies and poisonings he became a Board Certified Clinical Toxicologist with the American Board of Applied Toxicology (ABAT). Along with teaching and doing research, he works full time in an emergency department helping to treat sick patients and consulting on poisoned patients as a poison center toxicologist. Association between state‐level kratom regulations and poison center‐reported severe medical outcomes and healthcare use: A United States national analysis https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/add.70416

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