Michael Kiske joins Chris Jericho for an in-depth conversation about one of Helloween's most misunderstood albums, 1993's Chameleon. Kiske explains why the band intentionally pushed beyond power metal, how Kai Hansen's departure changed Helloween's chemistry, why Chameleon felt more like three solo albums than a true band record, and how working with producer Tommy Hansen, real horn players, live string sections, and Iron Maiden manager Rod Smallwood helped shape the album's ambitious sound. He also shares the story behind the lawsuit that sidelined Helloween for two years and the injunction that prevented the band from recording or touring. Kiske explains how those lost years affected drummer Ingo Schwichtenberg and the band's momentum, why the backlash to Chameleon caught him by surprise, and why he believes artists have to take creative risks. He discusses the inspiration behind songs like "When The Sinner," "Longing," and "I Believe," why he was blamed for the album's direction, and the events that ultimately led to his departure from Helloween before returning decades later for one of heavy metal's greatest reunions.

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