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This episode went somewhere we didn’t plan—but maybe exactly where it needed to go.

What begins with a listener question about the stigma surrounding antidepressants quickly turns into a raw and honest conversation. Steph opens up about her experience with childhood abuse, and Kacie shares about an assault in early adulthood. These confessions were unplanned, but they were intentional moments of bringing what’s been hidden into the light.

Even as the topics get heavy, we do what we do best: bring levity, laughter, and a little trauma bonding along the way. Because healing doesn’t always look quiet, and joy and grief can exist in the same conversation.

This episode is about smashing stigma, dismantling shame, glorifying God, and refusing to keep silent about the things most people feel pressured to keep secret.

Listener discretion advised—come with courage.

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In this episode, Steph takes us back to her 90s childhood in Utah — a place where coffee felt rebellious, almost everyone shared the same faith except her, and “fitting in” was just about attainable as perfection.

We dive into what it was like being the non-Mormon kid in a very Mormon world, how that shaped her identity, and why God sometimes places us exactly where we feel the most out of place. From school culture shock to Jell-O side dishes and the spiritual lessons she didn’t know she was learning — it’s honest, hilarious, and surprisingly healing.

If you’ve ever felt like the odd one out, this episode reminds you that God wastes nothing… not even the weird chapters.

Disclaimer:
No Mormon-bashing, no theology wars, and absolutely no soaking explanations. Promise. Just two perimenopausal women sharing memories, laughing through the cringe, and trying not to offend anyone’s aunt in Relief Society.

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This week on Kinda Preachy, we’re pulling back the curtain on the kind of grief nobody warns you about: the grief of losing the people, places, and callings we thought we’d be with forever.

Kacie opens up about the deeper layers of hurt she’s still discovering after stepping away from ministry—because apparently grief comes in waves, plot twists, and surprise reruns. And Steph shares how losing an entire friend group sucked but somehow became the thing God used to restore her marriage.

We talk about how abrupt loss knocks the wind out of you, how there is zero timeline for getting over anything, and how pretending to be “fine” is both unhelpful and hilariously inaccurate for us right now. Honestly? This episode felt more like a very public therapy session than a podcast… but we laugh through all of it because that’s who we are.

If you’re grieving what’s gone, feeling stretched in your faith, or just need to hear two perimenopausal women process their feelings with Jesus and questionable humor—this one’s for you.