Kavawon & Tobin: Battle Rap, Cameras, and Using AI Without Wrecking It
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The guests cancelled, so Kavawon starts solo and turns it into the most personal opening the show has done — how he preps, the ten-year gap in the Chasing Destiny trilogy, starting young, the vices, and the album versions that got shelved. The FOMO that cost him a record.
Tobin joins at 15:05: Set the Bar battler, cameraman, and the person who shoots and edits the whole event. Longboard videos to film school to freelance, discovering battle rap at 15, and filling in for a dropout. The stretch on Dizaster vs Canibus — and what that collapse cost Canibus — is the best thing in the episode; Kavawon's read on it is that the man was never the same again.
From there it is craft. How acting training helps performance and memory, why non-fans need the beat, what shooting a full battle event actually involves, and how every shot keeps getting shorter. Then a genuinely level-headed conversation about using AI as a tool without wrecking your brand — testing beats with Suno, hearing another voice on your own work — that avoids both the hype and the panic.
Recorded at B-Side Radio, Vancouver BC.
0:00 Technical difficulties and solo start
2:43 How Kavawon preps the show
4:51 Chasing Destiny: a 10-year gap
5:56 Starting young; shelved albums
9:30 The Destiny series and 'No Cap'
13:25 K-Ski's 'From Barcelona With Love'
15:05 Tobin joins: battler and cameraman
16:53 Longboard videos to freelance film
18:45 Discovering battle rap at 15
20:01 Formative battles: Dizaster, Rone
22:25 How acting training helps battling
24:44 The Canibus collapse
27:48 KOTD peaks: Pat Stay, Daylyt
29:16 The Vancouver scene and Icon
32:21 Callouts: A.A. Ron, Chiva, Billy Shakes
34:11 Weddings, screenplays, short films
37:25 Shooting a battle event; the venue
39:03 Growing Set the Bar with promo
41:27 Battling Shadow Eclipse
43:18 Pitching a Vancouver hip-hop doc
46:32 Why non-fans need the beat
49:04 Tobin Media goals
50:59 Using AI without wrecking your brand
53:26 Testing beats with Suno
56:03 The Okanagan and Big Valley Battles
58:18 Matchup ideas: Channel 5, Raptor
1:01:53 DAWs, Final Cut and FL Studio
1:05:31 Hooks that work; film school
1:07:18 Beach Tits, Droleen, the Jubiles
1:10:01 Comedy sets and variety formats
1:11:47 Closing: Bib Gang is a heel faction