Season 4 Episode 01 | 401Special Guest: Jae CamiloWebsite/Information: SPOTIFY MUSIC

Episode Description:From girl groups to solo freedom, Jae Camilo opens up about saying no to industry molds, claiming her voice in Bachata, and creating music with intent. From childhood memories of singing at family gatherings to auditioning for Making the Band, Jae walks us through a journey of reinvention and reclaiming space as a woman in a male-dominated genre.We discuss girl groups, group dynamics, the gritty realities of demo deals/music industry, and the cost of chasing longevity in the music industry. Jae shares why she walked away from acting and modeling to pursue music full-time and how her mother became a key connector, helping her work with top-tier producers.We also talk about singles marketing strategy and the unspoken rules of "taste freeze" in Latin culture. Plus, she unpacks the challenges of being told what to sing by men (or the “males” as referred to in the episode) and why her music never bashes men, but only tells the truth. Expect candid convos about side chick discourse, subliminal messages in Bachata, and what it means to really own your voice in an evolving genre.Thanks for checking out Just Words Nobody Cares_________TABLE OF CONTENTS________

00:00 Show Intro00:03:36 Guest Introduction00:04:14 Jae Camilo00:05:19 Shoutout to Karina00:05:42 Admitting to taste freeze00:08:27 Bachata evolving00:10:05 Jae's childhood interest in bachata00:11:03 Taking notice that bachata was male driven00:11:29 Starting career in the English Market00:12:36 Home influence00:13:39 Identifying the possibilities in the Spanish market00:14:00 Girl group experience00:14:50 Leaving Modeling and Acting for Music00:15:21 Leaving the group coming back to NYC00:15:57 Mom Connecting the dots00:17:05 Breaking the status quo00:18:41 Making the Band (Danity Kane) audition / Diddy story00:20:08 Declining MTB00:21:30 Explaining demo deals00:22:49 Realities of forming a girl group00:24:54 Thinking about longevity00:27:35 Releasing monthly Single's marketing strategy00:30:03 Cost of the music00:31:16 One hit wonder00:33:02 Label treatment of artist00:34:26 Ron's take on valuing creativity00:35:59 Looking for community as an artist00:37:50 Finding community internationally00:39:55 Blaming the culture for taste freeze00:41:13 Elvis Crespo00:41:59 Jae playing her own music at family gatherings00:43:11 The Great Put down00:43:40 Positive reinforcement from Family00:45:20 The music speaks for itself - Ramz00:46:48 Creating with intent00:49:44 I sing Sing00:50:43 Finding Jae Camilo00:53:15 Evolving the culture to learn the business00:53:38 Speaking truth to power00:56:08 Being receptive to the evolution of the music00:56:40 Bachata fitting in every where01:00:06 Men telling Jae what to sing about01:03:24 Women having more presence in the industry01:04:25 Ron owning up to his "male flaws"01:05:33 Side chick song01:07:31 "my music never bashes men"01:10:08 Bachata "theme" suggestion by the team01:10:51 Sigan hablando de "side chicks"01:12:31 Projects for the future01:13:35 Parental Censorship01:14:04 Subliminal messages in bachata01:15:10 Learning from the networking events01:15:59 Developing a Doc01:17:45 Early work that leaked01:18:57 Feeling more accepted to experiment on different projects01:20:49 New Song - "ya no puedo mas"01:22:54 Creative spurts01:23:28 Always save the work01:24:56 Ramz sharing his lyrics01:26:10 Jae's creative process01:30:26 LCFW - Format explanationRecord date: 02.22.25 LINK IN BIO ON MOST PODCAST APPS STREAM VIDEO ON @spotify | @youtube Guest Social | IG https://www.instagram.com/jaecamilo/Host Social | IG @ron.kain | @haydee.justwords | @dre.drizzo | @ramzmcfly

Season 3 Episode 18 | 318 Special Guest: Milly Tamarez Website/Information: https://www.millytamarez.com/ Episode Description: This episode, we’re joined by the hilarious and multi-talented Milly Tamarez—stand-up comedian, writer and podcaster—whose work has been featured on ABC, E!, WWE’S Friday Night Smackdown, NPR, Comedy Central, Buzzfeed, Reductress, Vice, and more. Milly shares her journey from improv and stand-up to writing for major networks, co-hosting the Go Touch Grass podcast, and creating spaces like Flexx and the Diverse as Fuck Festival to uplift diverse voices in comedy. We discuss some directing, teaching at UCB, and the long game of comedy—from "bombing" in Spanish stand-up to the joy of performing for Latino audiences. Milly opens up about pivoting and navigating gatekeeping in entertainment. Knowing how to be broke in NYC while pursuing creative passions. Plus, we talk about her writing process and balancing creative fulfillment with career demands. Whether you're an aspiring comedian or just a fan of great conversations, this episode is packed with insights, laughs, and real talk. _________________TABLE OF CONTENTS_______________00:00 00:02:00 "This is We Now" 00:02:31 Directing is a Labor of Love 00:06:39 Guest intro 00:07:28 Wearing the Directors hat for oneself 00:08:23 Teaching Comedy at UCB 00:10:03 Set up and Punchlines 00:10:35 Comedy Recital 00:11:04 Ron not getting invited to a Comedy Show 00:11:27 Sharing tips from 1st class 00:12:41 The long game 00:13:04 The challenges of pivoting to LA 00:14:01 Knowing how to be broke in NYC 00:14:53 LA Dominican Food 00:17:41 Ropa Vieja 00:19:24 Netflix is a Joke Fest 00:20:14 Doing Stand-up Comedy in Spanish 00:21:37 "Bombing" in Spanish Comedy 00:22:38 Comedy not being part of Regular Latino Culture 00:25:55 Crowd not reacting to Angelo Colina 00:26:59 After the Show 00:27:27 The process to prep for a Comedy show in Spanish 00:28:32 Comedy clubs in the Middle East 00:31:10 Live Performance Culture in Latin America 00:34:37 Good Comedians can make everyone laugh 00:36:04 Meeting Dominicans in the Tri State 00:37:15 Go Touch Grass Podcast 00:38:05 Research Process 00:38:26 Comedians Being on a News and Politics Podcast 00:40:38 Focusing on Internet Trends 00:43:14 Balancing act of work and creative 00:44:34 Refining the podcast Pitch 00:45:52 The fun part is being creative 00:46:42 Is the Juice worth the Squeeze 00:49:34 Keeping at it 00:50:52 Allowing yourself Agency 00:51:44 Wrestling meets Housewives 00:53:31 Write Story Lines for Lucha Libre 00:56:14 Ideas that Milly is Excited about 00:56:39 Leveraging social media to get passed the gatekeeping 00:57:56 The Process 00:59:37 Standards for Women in Creativity 01:00:26 Growing passed the noise 01:03:39 Everyone wants to do it 01:04:39 Being met with Resistance 01:06:47 Appreciating Emotional Maturity 01:08:27 Gabriel Iglesias 01:10:38 Going Through it 01:11:46 Vulnerability and Comedy 01:13:43 Original source of inspiration behind Comedy 01:17:15 Speaking to past and future self 01:19:52 LCFW - DRE 01:22:44 LCFW - MILLY 01:23:57 LCFW - Haydee 01:24:52 Seeing things through 01:26:32 LCFW - Ron 01:28:41 It's Good to do something that you like 01:29:53 The joy of doing Comedy in Spanish 01:31:22 When your passion becomes your paycheck

Record date: 08.24.24

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