In this episode of Just Press Record, Matt Zeigler introduces historian and author Joseph Moore to filmmaker and producer Simon Egan for a conversation about creativity, failure, storytelling, and what happens after a big project finally reaches the world.
They discuss Joseph’s national bestselling book How to Get Rich in American History, Simon’s journey with The King’s Speech, the emotional cost of creative work, and why failure can become the feedback that leads to meaningful work.
Main topics covered
Joseph Moore’s unexpected path from historian to personal finance author
Simon Egan’s story of discovering and championing The King’s Speech
Why some stories feel like they have to be told
The role of rejection, risk, and persistence in creative work
How failure becomes feedback for writers, filmmakers, and creators
The emotional crash that can follow finishing a major creative project
Why success can create pressure instead of satisfaction
The tension between creativity, business, family, and focus
How creators manage distractions, deep work, and multiple projects
Why great storytelling often comes from personal pain, curiosity, and lived experience
The importance of being a fan before becoming a creator
Storytelling, story editing, and story selling as the heart of creative work
Timestamps
00:00 Why Joseph Moore needed to meet Simon Egan
03:02 The Just Press Record blind introduction format
05:41 Joseph Moore on How to Get Rich in American History
07:49 Why taking creative risks matters
09:31 Simon Egan’s path from finance to filmmaking
12:18 Discovering The King’s Speech
15:00 Fighting to get The King’s Speech made
18:54 The moment you decide not to quit on a story
20:22 Choosing the project over the original dream
22:00 How Geoffrey Rush became part of The King’s Speech journey
25:08 Joseph Moore’s parallel book journey
26:00 The 2008 financial crisis and the origin of Joseph’s book
28:15 Rejection from publishers and literary agents
30:31 The agent who finally saw the book’s potential
32:00 Writing a book in five months
35:04 The joy of immersive creative work
36:05 Why creation can make time stop
39:49 Balancing creative ambition with the reality of collaboration
41:19 Simon on addiction to the creative process
43:35 What happens after reaching the top of the mountain
44:39 The emotional crash after The King’s Speech success
46:07 Joseph on wanting the next creative challenge
48:25 The danger of trying to reverse engineer success
52:33 The sugar rush and crash of deep creative focus
55:00 Joseph’s post-manuscript crash
58:06 Is the creative crash part of the process?
59:38 Anxiety after handing work over to the world
01:01:17 Advice Simon would give to a younger creator
01:04:18 Joseph on failure as feedback
01:06:06 Why nothing works out the way you expect
01:08:03 How success changes the pressure to keep going
01:11:00 The difference between creative work and business work
01:18:00 Learning to be more pragmatic with creative projects
01:21:15 Managing distractions, notifications, and family life
01:24:49 How Simon structures creative work
01:26:14 Why deep creative work does not fit into short blocks
01:28:00 Designing space for creative failure
01:29:48 Why creators need to be fans first
01:32:32 Finding unexpected connections through reading and research
01:33:25 How personal experience shapes the stories we tell
01:38:15 Joseph on the stories he still wants to write
01:41:06 Guessing why Matt made the introduction
01:42:28 Storytelling, story editing, and story selling
01:42:48 Where to find Simon Egan and Joseph Moore
01:44:17 Closing thoughts and disclaimer