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Judgemental - a psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar

Judgemental - a psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar

著者： Greg Smith and Kate Connors
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An analysis of all things psychosocial risk, from psychological studies to legal proceedings and case law. マネジメント マネジメント・リーダーシップ 哲学 生物科学 社会科学 科学 経済学
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  • When Consultation is actually a control, and changes everything

    When Consultation is actually a control, and changes everything
    2026/07/28
    What happens when a stubborn safety issue turns into a crisis of trust, culture, and psychosocial risk? In this episode, Kate and Greg are joined by Louis Webb and Brendan Luker from Hume City Council to unpack a real-world case study that started with a manual handling safety concern, and evolved into something much bigger. When vehicle mounted cranes were taken out of service, it sparked frustration, confusion, and fear across the team. Workers felt unheard. Management felt stuck. And over time, unresolved physical safety risks began to intersect with rising psychosocial risks—low trust, poor communication, and genuine concerns for mental wellbeing. Instead of more policies, more meetings, or more top-down decisions, Louis took a different approach—bringing everyone into the room. No scripts. No fixed agenda. Just real, structured conversations grounded in curiosity, transparency, and genuine consultation. Over a series of open sessions, the team: Voiced frustrations that had been building for yearsExplored both frontline and management perspectivesChallenged assumptions and unpacked the “why” behind decisionsCo-designed safer, more practical ways of working The outcome? A complete turnaround. And a WorkSafe inspector surprised - yet delighted at what had been achieved. The crew (who had been strongly advocating to keep cranes on their trucks) ultimately made the call themselves to move away from them after fully understanding the broader risks and constraints. More importantly, trust was rebuilt through transparent and honest conversations, morale lifted, laughter and humour returned to the workplace and psychosocial risks were significantly reduced. This episode is a powerful reminder that: Consultation isn’t a checkbox—it’s a controlPsychological safety enables better safety decisionsPeople don’t resist change—they resist not being heardThe best solutions often come from the people doing the work If you’re dealing with conflict, resistance, or stuck safety issues in your organisation, this conversation shows what’s possible when you stop talking at people—and start working with them. Connect with us: LinkedIn – Kate Connors LinkedIn – Greg Smith LinkedIn – EML LinkedIn – Mutual Benefits Resources:Elemental Psychology & Coaching website Greg Smith – Safety Books Proving Safety and Paper Safe EML website EML Psychosocial resources – Mutual Benefitshttps://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/ Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar SpotifyAppleAmazon Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message. This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets. For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​Click here for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.
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    43 分
  • The Net Effect – Part 2: Let’s catch the biggest fish, with the best designed net

    The Net Effect – Part 2: Let’s catch the biggest fish, with the best designed net
    2026/06/26
    Kate, Greg and Rod are back at the bar for Part 2 of their conversation. And no – they aren’t really catching fish! They are identifying and controlling psychosocial hazards, by diving into the messy reality of psychosocial risk, where nothing is neat, linear, or easily solved. In this part of the conversation, they unpack five categories of psychosocial hazards - and the overlaps and intersections that Rod researched to design this approach. The question “are all hazards equal” and therefore should they all attract equal attention and resources is debated. It was no surprise to Kate that Rod’s research identifies the biggest troublemaker (when considering the dynamic between hazard and harm) is interpersonal hazards. Yes – humans can be very harmful hazards! From there, the conversation shifts from “what are the hazards?” to “what are we actually doing about them?”— and the answer isn’t more policies. It’s about designing a multi-layer approach to control systems, and moving away from a list of controls for individual hazards. This means designing controls from organisational culture through to what actually happens on the frontline This episode confronts the hard truth - organisations can tick all the legal and regulatory compliance boxes and people can still be psychologically harmed. Because managing legal risk isn’t the same as managing human impact. The big takeaway? If you want to make a dent in psychosocial risk, start where it matters most—how people treat each other, and how leaders lead—and have systems in place to assure that what’s written on paper actually shows up in the day-to-day. Connect with us: LinkedIn – Kate Connors LinkedIn – Greg Smith LinkedIn – Dr Rod Gutierrez LinkedIn – EML Resources:“The Net Effect – an ecosystems approach to psychosocial risk management.” Elemental Psychology & Coaching website Greg Smith – Safety Books Proving Safety and Paper Safe EML website EML Psychosocial resources – Mutual Benefits https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/ Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar Spotify Apple Amazon Youtube Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review or send us a message. This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets. For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​Click here for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.
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    49 分
  • The Net Effect – why fishing for hazards a hook at a time isn’t the answer…

    The Net Effect – why fishing for hazards a hook at a time isn’t the answer…
    2026/06/17
    In this episode of Judgemental, Kate Connors and co-host Greg Smith are joined by Dr Rod Gutierrez—doctor, psychologist, and author of The Net Effect—for part 1 of a rich and provocative 2-part conversation about the future of psychosocial risk management. Rod takes listeners inside his unique professional journey and the thinking behind his book, challenging the dominant “tick-the-box” approach that still underpins much of workplace health and safety. Instead of treating psychosocial risk as a series of isolated hazards, he introduces a powerful alternative: the idea of the net effect—a more human, interconnected way of understanding how risks interact and are experienced through individual differences. Together, the trio explores why traditional engineering-style safety frameworks struggle to address complex human problems, and why compliance alone is not enough. They unpack the gap between regulation and meaningful practice, the unintended consequences of controlling risk in silos, and the growing tension between prevention and real-time support in workplaces. The conversation also ventures into the rising influence of AI and the uncomfortable truth that even though workplaces still haven’t mastered human-to-human care, they are now increasingly focused on human-to-AI interactions. Key discussion points: Why psychosocial risk can’t be managed one hazard at a timeThe “net effect” and what it means for real-world practiceThe gap between regulatory compliance and meaningful safetyAI as both a solution—and a new psychosocial hazardThe hard truth: workplaces still struggle with human-to-human care Connect with us: LinkedIn – Kate Connors LinkedIn – Greg Smith LinkedIn – Dr Rod Gutierrez LinkedIn – EML Resources:“The Net Effect – an ecosystems approach to psychosocial risk management.” Elemental Psychology & Coaching website Greg Smith – Safety Books Proving Safety and Paper Safe EML website EML Psychosocial Resources – Mutual Benefits https://www.eml.com.au/news-community/latest-news/reduce-psychosocial-risks-in-workplaces/ Follow Judgemental: A psychologist and a lawyer walk into a bar SpotifyAppleAmazon Music Be sure to subscribe, leave us a review, or send us a message. This podcast series is proudly sponsored by EML. As Australia’s largest personal injury claims provider, EML provide services to the workers compensation, life insurance and CTP personal injury markets. For over 110-years, the EML Group has proudly helped people get their lives back after a workplace injury or illness.The Mutual Benefits program reinvests a portion of EML profits into innovative products, tools, initiatives and services that are designed to improve outcomes for employers, injured workers, and the communities we support.​Click here for the free resources available within the Mutual Benefit program to support psychosocial risk management in the workplace.
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    40 分
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