What if the real cost of conflict isn’t the argument… but what it quietly destroys after?

In this episode of the Swedish Wealth Institute Podcast, Daniel Wood sits down with Jane Gunn — a mediator and conflict resolution expert who has spent decades helping people, businesses, and major institutions handle high-stakes disputes without burning everything down.

Jane breaks conflict down in a way that instantly clicks: conflict is like rain. You can’t stop it, but you can catch it early, channel it, and prevent it from turning into a flood.

You’ll learn why conflict escalates fastest when people start collecting allies behind the scenes, why “being right” is fuel for escalation, and how to slow things down long enough to reach something better than a settlement: a resolution where your heart is actually at peace.

Jane also shares her “Maurice the Mole” framework — a practical map for moving from surface drama to what’s really going on underneath, so you stop reacting and start resolving.

If you lead a team, run a business, manage partnerships, or just want fewer fights that spiral… this episode gives you tools you can use immediately.

Inside This Episode, You’ll Learn:

• Why conflict is natural — and how to catch it early instead of stepping into a deluge
• The #1 warning sign conflict is about to escalate: “parallel conversations” and ally-collecting
• How defensiveness turns a small issue into a full-blown war
• The fastest de-escalation move: acknowledge emotion before debating facts
• Jane’s “Murky Swamp of Reality” — why skipping it leads to fake resolution and real resentment
• A simple corporate conflict ladder to stop politics from becoming the default
• How to listen without surrendering your position
• The difference between settlement and resolution — and why “winning” can still cost you everything

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🎙 Guest:

Jane Gunn
Mediator | Conflict Resolution Expert | Author (“The Mole and the Mountain”)

🎙 Host:

Daniel Wood
Founder, Swedish Wealth Institute

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