At Davos, Canadian PM Mark Carney gave a speech criticizing the “rules-based international order.” It isn’t the kind of speech one would expect from a leader like Carney, and the speech has received much adulation. But what is Carney really advocating here?

We are joined by Jacobin columnist Luke Savage to break down what this pivot means and what it doesn’t. We also open with a lesson from the great Marxist political theorist Leo Panitch.

Read Luke’s piece here: https://jacobin.com/2026/01/carney-davos-speech-international-multipolarity

Keep up with Luke’s work via his Substack: https://www.lukewsavage.com/

And listen to Luke’s podcast Michael and Us: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/michael-and-us/id1120756155

You can pick up David’s debut book The Myth of Red Texas: https://orbooks.com/catalog/the-myth-of-red-texas/

Watch the whole Leo Panitch lecture here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-SSslU4wgc

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This is the audio version of a live broadcast from January 30, 2026. Catch the Jacobin Show on YouTube every Friday at 10 AM ET: https://www.youtube.com/@JacobinMag