"Feelings are like a beach ball, you can push it down but eventually it's gonna come right back up."

Right before Lisa and Ken were set to record this episode, Lisa received a random message from her old boss who had been listening to the podcast. Her old boss told Lisa how he had a heart to heart with this adult children and genuinely apologized to them about anything that he did that was hurtful in their childhood.

The random messages did not stop because Lisa received yet another message from her dad’s ex-wife #5 telling her that she and her therapist think her dad is a narcissist. Lisa explains how her dad’s high-functioning autism has a lot of similarities to vulnerable narcissism. She tells how her dad’s autism was misdiagnosed by an inexperienced psychology student.

Ken relays his own story of being misdiagnosed and prescribed the incorrect bipolar medication and the deleterious effects it had on him. Later, they weighs the pros and cons of ABA therapy and its controversial nature.

Lastly, they chat about the abominable cooking of their narcissistic parents! Seriously, it’s disgusting!

Credits/Thanks:

Theme Song: "Clouded" by Megan Morrow. IG: @meganmorrowmusic

Sound Editing: Ken & Lisa

Cover Art: Ken

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